KK UTG with Raise and Cold Call Behind Me on flop - Page 2

MLSchaff · #11 11-16-2006, 10:36 PM

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make bigger bet PF
call flop and push AI on turn
you're overthinking and giving people too much credit because you're a stupid rudddy fish!

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Wow, this is some of the worst advice I've ever seen on SSNL.

Raise more PF? Its a standard 4bb first-in raise. He has KK, why push everyone out with an overbet.

Call flop?! There's only about half the deck of potential scare cards to come on the turn.

Given the stack sizes I think it is push or fold. Any raise is going to pot commit. Against 2 villains, I don't mind going either way on this one.

yundmi · #12 11-16-2006, 11:03 PM

Push, and um rgold, explain ur advice and stop calling people fish. it's not very constructive :O

JiffyPop100 · #13 11-16-2006, 11:18 PM

Against a min flop raise and a cold call, you better get the hell out of this pot. I think you lose 9 out of 10 of these.

rgold79 · #14 11-17-2006, 11:13 AM

Hey! I'm the OP - I didn't call anyone a fish. I was in fact the one called a fish here... But I appreciate all the helpful advice from everyone. Thanks!

jii · #15 11-17-2006, 11:21 AM

[ QUOTE ]
make bigger bet PF
call flop and push AI on turn
you're overthinking and giving people too much credit because you're a stupid rudddy fish!

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This is compete and utter [censored]. Your pf raise for 4BB is ok. Flop is 3-way and some heavy draws out there. Minimum for this bet is 3/4 pot, but you went under that. Many pot this. Villain is a short stack, just push the flop after min-raise.

Fishlips_Jones · #16 11-17-2006, 11:36 AM

Good fold. You took the shot with a continuation bet and now you know your hand is either a) no good, or b) at best about even money. BB's flop call worries me more than the raise from CO.

Almost any two cards your two opponents have will fit that flop. If you had the K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] well, then you can play it fast.

morphball · #17 11-17-2006, 11:54 AM

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because you're a stupid rudddy fish!

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Chill out man, save your tilt for poker, don't waste it on 2+2...

jii · #18 11-17-2006, 12:47 PM

Ooops... Didn't notice the flop caller. Push/fold.

nowags · #19 11-17-2006, 01:13 PM

No one has mentioned one of these guys hitting a set yet. 4 calls pf (88, 99 and i'm definitely calling), then a decent raise and a call on the flop. looks like a set's out there to me. nice job getting out of the way

yundmi · #20 11-17-2006, 01:16 PM

oops my bad rgold, that comment was directed towards goatboy