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Re: maybe too opponent specific to get a constructive thread
sam,
first thing i thought was raise. second, call. third, fold. it's all terribly flow dependent though. i saw your results. doesn't change my answer. matt |
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Re: Results
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I posted this hand, because I feel a reasonable argument can be made for all three of the possibilities - calling, folding, or raising (as a bluff of course). I chose to call, but in retrospect, I think folding and raising might be better options. The result was kind of interesting: he had the other two threes. [/ QUOTE ] hmm intresting. sick value bet. |
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Re: Results
i agree w matt i think
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Re: Results
so we're repping an 8 with a raise?
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Re: Results
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[ QUOTE ] I posted this hand, because I feel a reasonable argument can be made for all three of the possibilities - calling, folding, or raising (as a bluff of course). I chose to call, but in retrospect, I think folding and raising might be better options. The result was kind of interesting: he had the other two threes. [/ QUOTE ] hmm intresting. sick value bet. [/ QUOTE ] I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but it's obviously a bluff to get out some other mid-pairs. I don't think he feels like you'd look him up here with AK high - would you? |
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Re: maybe too opponent specific to get a constructive thread
i'd prefer to raise here.
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Re: Results
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I posted this hand, because I feel a reasonable argument can be made for all three of the possibilities - calling, folding, or raising (as a bluff of course). I chose to call, but in retrospect, I think folding and raising might be better options. The result was kind of interesting: he had the other two threes. [/ QUOTE ] hmm intresting. sick value bet. [/ QUOTE ] I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but it's obviously a bluff to get out some other mid-pairs. I don't think he feels like you'd look him up here with AK high - would you? [/ QUOTE ] if 33 is a call, so is AK. they're obviously not identical here since 33 is counting on AK being shown a good amount, but they're pretty damn close. |
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Re: Results
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[ QUOTE ] I posted this hand, because I feel a reasonable argument can be made for all three of the possibilities - calling, folding, or raising (as a bluff of course). I chose to call, but in retrospect, I think folding and raising might be better options. The result was kind of interesting: he had the other two threes. [/ QUOTE ] hmm intresting. sick value bet. [/ QUOTE ] More like bad bluff. |
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Re: Results
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I posted this hand, because I feel a reasonable argument can be made for all three of the possibilities - calling, folding, or raising (as a bluff of course). I chose to call, but in retrospect, I think folding and raising might be better options. The result was kind of interesting: he had the other two threes. [/ QUOTE ] hmm intresting. sick value bet. [/ QUOTE ] I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but it's obviously a bluff to get out some other mid-pairs. I don't think he feels like you'd look him up here with AK high - would you? [/ QUOTE ] if 33 is a call, so is AK. they're obviously not identical here since 33 is counting on AK being shown a good amount, but they're pretty damn close. [/ QUOTE ] Even though AK may be a better hand than 33 to float with, paradoxically it's way more likely in my experience that players will float with small pairs rather than overcards. A lot of players seem to give up with AK because of the possible reverse implied odds of continuing past the flop. |
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Re: maybe too opponent specific to get a constructive thread
Sam,
Against opponent described raise less pf and see flops with position and a stack behind. And yeah, if opponent is good i like a fold more than a call in the hand. but its close and as you said arguments for calling, folding and raising could be made althoguh i dislike raising. |
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