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ok so now that we agree no one has a set how can u fold this? did u even consider the odds?
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ok so i beat like 1 hand a9?
and am behind to flush marginally ahead of flush draw/straight draw |
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How can you seriously believe that at least one of them has a set when the only possible set hands are AA/KK and noone reraised preflop?
AK and a flush seems by far to be the most likely hands. If these are the hands you're up against I don't know whether it's worth a call/push or not. To beat the flush you have to fill up, and if you fill up with an A/K the AK hand fills up to a better boat. And why do you say SB has $350 when the stack sizes says he has $276? |
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How can you seriously believe that at least one of them has a set when the only possible set hands are AA/KK and noone reraised preflop? AK and a flush seems by far to be the most likely hands. If these are the hands you're up against I don't know whether it's worth a call/push or not. To beat the flush you have to fill up, and if you fill up with an A/K the AK hand fills up to a better boat. And why do you say SB has $350 when the stack sizes says he has $276? [/ QUOTE ] Clarification 1: $276 is sb stack initially. Clarification 2: i meant to say FLUSH, not SET, for the millionth time.. as for your post, you are probably the only player that sees my perspective. if one player has 2 pair, the other flush, im drawing almost dead. its unlikely that they both have 2 pair and neither has a flush. given the large stack of sb, why woudl i call to draw? |
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369:129
You're getting 2.85:1 to call, you need to win only about 25% of the time Board: Ah Kh 9h Dead: equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 25.7391 % 25.58% 00.16% { 9d9s } Hand 2: 37.1305 % 36.78% 00.35% { AKs, QhJh, QhTh, JhTh, Th8h, 9h8h, 8h7h, 8h6h, 7h6h, 7h5h, 6h5h, 6h4h, 5h4h } Hand 3: 37.1305 % 36.78% 00.35% { AKs, QhJh, QhTh, JhTh, Th8h, 9h8h, 8h7h, 8h6h, 7h6h, 7h5h, 6h5h, 6h4h, 5h4h } So... it's pretty close. I figure donk factor is enough to make it a call. EDIT: Hmm... didn't notice stack sizes either, lemme rethink. |
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You haven't included AKo in Villains' hand ranges.
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369:129 You're getting 2.85:1 to call, you need to win only about 25% of the time Board: Ah Kh 9h Dead: equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 25.7391 % 25.58% 00.16% { 9d9s } Hand 2: 37.1305 % 36.78% 00.35% { AKs, QhJh, QhTh, JhTh, Th8h, 9h8h, 8h7h, 8h6h, 7h6h, 7h5h, 6h5h, 6h4h, 5h4h } Hand 3: 37.1305 % 36.78% 00.35% { AKs, QhJh, QhTh, JhTh, Th8h, 9h8h, 8h7h, 8h6h, 7h6h, 7h5h, 6h5h, 6h4h, 5h4h } So... it's pretty close. I figure donk factor is enough to make it a call. [/ QUOTE ] no ur math is wrong, sb still has money behind. so im not paying $129 for turn and river, and i might not have as many outs a just a paired board. |
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I included only 3 combos each because I think it's an unlikely hand, due to PF action.
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I think AK is _very_ likely. Not everyone reraises AK every time OOP.
Edit: Ok, one player had position but I still think AK is very likely. |
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[ QUOTE ] 369:129 You're getting 2.85:1 to call, you need to win only about 25% of the time Board: Ah Kh 9h Dead: equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 25.7391 % 25.58% 00.16% { 9d9s } Hand 2: 37.1305 % 36.78% 00.35% { AKs, QhJh, QhTh, JhTh, Th8h, 9h8h, 8h7h, 8h6h, 7h6h, 7h5h, 6h5h, 6h4h, 5h4h } Hand 3: 37.1305 % 36.78% 00.35% { AKs, QhJh, QhTh, JhTh, Th8h, 9h8h, 8h7h, 8h6h, 7h6h, 7h5h, 6h5h, 6h4h, 5h4h } So... it's pretty close. I figure donk factor is enough to make it a call. [/ QUOTE ] no ur math is wrong, sb still has money behind. so im not paying $129 for turn and river, and i might not have as many outs a just a paired board. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, hand range is somewhat bogus, too. |
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