89s UTG+1 Live, My first attempt at NL

[Grizwold]

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My guess is that this was at The Hustler Casino, right?

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Yup!

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Preflop is probably okay - though I often toss these OOP - if you sense that you're not going to get raised behind. You were fortunate that there were few callers - if all had called, V2 might have gone over the top PF.

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I see now I should have folded preflop. I did not think V2 was likely at all to raise all in preflop, but there likely could have been 1 or 2 raises behind me.

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On the flop: You've already indicated that V2 is acting the bully - and in this hand he has position to do so. He could easily have squat - very read/tell dependent.


V1's initial overbet may be 2 overcards, or any single pair, trying to protect his hand.

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Definately I thought V2 could have anything in this situation, but his holding didn't suprise me much. I had a very hard time determining what V1 had in this position and I will never know.

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Your flat call is wrong, IMO. With V2, who you already know to be a bully, yet to act behind you, you want to make it wrong for him to call. If you push all in you will probably take the pot right there, if you raise to $25 or so, V1 still may call, V2 may fold - or may call - but he's not likely to go all in without a real hand based on your strong action. Your flat call could have easily induced a bluff from V2.

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My call was in part to induce a bluff, but I am very unsure this was the correct move. I've read very little about NL, but have found a common theme for success is inducing opponents to make mistakes (and this is important in all poker). In fact I was not sure my hand was strong enough to warrant a raise of any kind, fearing I would likely be called by better hands. I can see now the semi-bluff is somewhat more powerful in NL than limit.

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V1's subsequent call all in indicates that he may have a top pair, or a decent draw - and may just be tired of being run over by V2, and is calling what he things is a bluff, and is most likely expecting YOU to fold.

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I almost did fold despite allowing myself to be in the situation I welcomed to happen. I think in this hand my action was highly read dependent, maybe too high. There are certainly various ways this could have played out to my detriment.

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Getting better than 2 to 1 from the pot, I think your final call is correct.


BTW - did you get the 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]? Or did you get stacked?

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Turn was blank, river was A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. V2 shows a set of sixes, V1 mucks, ship it!

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PS: Next time at Hustler, if you happen to see a tall guy with a Marvin the Martian card protector at Hustler, say " 'sup bro".

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Will do! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[AlienBoy]

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(You can see my limit tendencies here, please help taylor my play to NL strategies.)

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"Theory of Poker" is very good.

And the new book "No Limit HE Theory and Practice" is also very good.

Bluffs gain much value in NL - as do Semibluffs. Making a pot sized raise on the flop here is a semi bluff, basically, and anyone that calls with a drawing hand of their own may be making a mistake. It also may give you control of the pot - though in this hand V2 flopped a set, he's not leaving - but he may just call instead of going AI, and V1 may fold, increasing your chances of a win (in in this case V1 had a higher 2 spades for instance).



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[Grizwold]

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"Theory of Poker" is very good.

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Read this one but only twice so far, and there is still a wealth of information in there I'm sure I will comprehend much better as I review this book in the future. I certainly have not focused on the strategies in TOP as related to NL, as I have started my career as a limit player. Currently I am reading Gambling Theory and Other Topics for the first time.

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And the new book "No Limit HE Theory and Practice" is also very good.

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This one is on the "To-Do List" but not at the top yet.