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Old 10-22-2006, 04:49 AM
Yort Mada Yort Mada is offline
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Default Re: JJ Flopped Set

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Start by raising turn

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when we raise and call the turn cap, is a river call ok, or raise here too?
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Old 10-22-2006, 04:58 AM
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Default Re: JJ Flopped Set

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Start by raising turn

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when we raise and call the turn cap, is a river call ok, or raise here too?

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According to OP, "BB seems like a decent player." He qualifies it a bit (the "relatively new" bit), but assuiming that BB knows a little something about poker, what range do you put him on when he caps the flop + the turn 3-way?
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Old 10-22-2006, 05:15 AM
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Default Re: JJ Flopped Set

if we raise the BB bet on the turn, CO re-raises and BB caps, i'd put him on Q9 and make a crying call on the river.

if BB bets, we raise, Co re-raises, BB calls, we cap, then i'd put him on a lower set and raise the river if he bet.
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Old 10-22-2006, 05:59 AM
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Default Re: JJ Flopped Set

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if BB bets, we raise, Co re-raises, BB calls, we cap, then i'd put him on a lower set and raise the river if he bet.

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From Villain's POV, betting TT or worse on the river after that action is not decent. It's atrocious.
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Old 10-22-2006, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: JJ Flopped Set

I don't understand this calling turn. Did you think you're on draw? Raise on turn would give us lot more information so we can decide what to do on river. If BB shows straight, I'd say [censored], tilt couple of hands away and then start playing again.
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Old 10-22-2006, 04:06 PM
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Default Re: JJ Flopped Set

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if BB bets, we raise, Co re-raises, BB calls, we cap, then i'd put him on a lower set and raise the river if he bet.

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From Villain's POV, betting TT or worse on the river after that action is not decent. It's atrocious.

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I agree. We've under-represented our hand by just calling the turn, so Villain could easily be on TT/JT/J8/T8 as played, but if he still donks after we cap we're pretty much down to hoping for a misclick or "red flush" or tilt-induced overplaying. It's probably enough to allow us to call in a pot this big, but raising would suck. A lot.
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