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Old 10-05-2006, 12:26 PM
Sherman Sherman is offline
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Default Re: AKo call or fold?

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fold , at least one prob has an ace , and another a pair possibly , u might be fav to win but do u really want to get in to a pot with 2 others who allready have u beat. my opinion wait for a better time to double up this is a risky situation which can easily be avioded.
you dont need to take risks to win
wait till if favours you

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Wait for a better time to double up? Why? Here is an opportunity to triple up! At least one of them probably has an Ace and the other a pair!? Well maybe, but it is also possible that they both have pairs in which case calling is hugely +EV.

"You don't need to take risks to win."

LOL. If you counting winning as making it ITM you are right. But if you count winning as actually making $, you are wrong.
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Old 10-05-2006, 01:10 PM
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Tuuuuuunderin' Jaysus, where did all these weak-tighties come from? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 10-05-2006, 01:21 PM
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Default Re: AKo call or fold?

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fold , at least one prob has an ace , and another a pair possibly , u might be fav to win but do u really want to get in to a pot with 2 others who allready have u beat. my opinion wait for a better time to double up this is a risky situation which can easily be avioded.
you dont need to take risks to win
wait till if favours you

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Even if one of them has an ace and one has a pair you're still getting 2:1 here and you have about 35% equity in the pot if villains hold exactly the cards you listed. This is the time where you DO take risks in a tournament because cEV and $EV are still very close. It's later in a tournament, mostly nearing the FT bubble, where you might choose to pass up these slight +cEV edges because they are -$EV.


equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 33.7299 % 32.95% 00.78% { AKo }
Hand 2: 19.9588 % 19.18% 00.78% { ATo }
Hand 3: 46.3114 % 46.20% 00.11% { 99 }
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Old 10-05-2006, 02:04 PM
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Tuuuuuunderin' Jaysus, where did all these weak-tighties come from? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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I blame myself for suggesting that we fold AK in a thread two days ago. I was wrong and now look what happened. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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