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09-24-2006, 09:30 PM
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Re: Nihilism
It is. I find myself thinking along these lines when asking difficult moral dilemmas.
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09-24-2006, 10:01 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Greenfield, If you are interested in Nihilism, but have trouble with its seemingly inhumane effects, you might enjoy Nietzsche. Scott [/ QUOTE ] ok cool, any specific reads? [/ QUOTE ] The Gay Science. And no, this time I'm not talking about sex. [/ QUOTE ] Not a bad choice, but I'd recommend starting with Beyond Good and Evil and then moving on to Thus Spoke Zarathustra. Scott
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09-24-2006, 10:49 PM
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[ QUOTE ] If nihilism = rejection of all morals, how is it compassionate? [/ QUOTE ] Prove to me that traditional morality is compassionate. Scott [/ QUOTE ] I dont quite see the relevance. I think compassion is caring what happens to other people. I dont understand how rejecting all morality promotes caring what happens to other people.
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09-24-2006, 11:01 PM
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I dont quite see the relevance. I think compassion is caring what happens to other people. I dont understand how rejecting all morality promotes caring what happens to other people. [/ QUOTE ] Okay, here is an extremely simplified and generalized example: The Golden Rule, or "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you," is considered a maxim of traditional morality. What if I enjoy being choked to near unconsciousness during intercourse? The GR implicitly ignores the wishes of others and explicitly replaces their concerns with one's own. This is a very uncompassionate attitude, particurarly since it tries to disguise egotism as compassion. Scott
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09-24-2006, 11:04 PM
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[ QUOTE ] I dont quite see the relevance. I think compassion is caring what happens to other people. I dont understand how rejecting all morality promotes caring what happens to other people. [/ QUOTE ] Okay, here is an extremely simplified and generalized example: The Golden Rule, or "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you," is considered a maxim of traditional morality. What if I enjoy being choked to near unconsciousness during intercourse? The GR implicitly ignores the wishes of others and explicitly replaces their concerns with one's own. This is a very uncompassionate attitude, particurarly since it tries to disguise egotism as compassion. Scott [/ QUOTE ] I understand what you are saying. I am not advocating the golden rule or any other moral code for that matter. What I am asking is how rejecting all morality promotes caring what happens to other people?
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09-24-2006, 11:10 PM
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What I am asking is how rejecting all morality promotes caring what happens to other people? [/ QUOTE ] I am not saying that it promotes compassion, and I also do not think that anyone else is. I also think that most of the posts in this thread aren't quite understanding Nihilism. All I am trying to say is that Nihilism (as I understand it) and compassion are not mutually exclusive, and to do so by showing that the values which Nihilism rejects do sometimes hinder compassion. Scott
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09-24-2006, 11:13 PM
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My initial question was in response to madnak who said nihilism is by it's nature compassionate. I dont understand this (I see that it is not mutually exclusive with compassion, I just dont see what it is about nihilism that is inherently compassionate).
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09-24-2006, 11:18 PM
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My initial question was in response to madnak who said nihilism is by it's nature compassionate. I dont understand this (I see that it is not mutually exclusive with compassion, I just dont see what it is about nihilism that is inherently compassionate). [/ QUOTE ] I cannot speak for madnak, but perhaps he would strengthen my claims. Where I say that traditional morality can (and sometimes does) hinder compassion, perhaps he would say that traditional ethics always excludes compassion. Scott PS Though an extreme claim, it might actually be a valid one.
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