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Old 09-19-2006, 05:41 PM
KAT21 KAT21 is offline
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Default Re: 25NL - AA hits set on turn, what does villain have?

Thanks for the responses. Lesson learned. I completely missed the 45 possibility until he called the reraise, which is pretty bad. The rest of the hand went like this.


Hero re-raises to $22.75, Villain calls.

River (board: Ts 3s 2d Ad Kh):

Hero bets $10(should have just pushed as he's not folding). Villain goes all-in for $17.75.
Hero calls.



Showdown:

Villain shows 5d 4d.
Villain has 5d 4d 3s 2d Ad: straight, five high.
Hero mucks cards.
(Hero has Ac As.)
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Old 09-19-2006, 05:42 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - AA hits set on turn, what does villain have?

KAT,

you now learnt your lession of not to try these dumb LRRs?
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Old 09-19-2006, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - AA hits set on turn, what does villain have?

I think this is probably the easiest way to waste aces... I've made the mistake myself before and have the scar tissue to prove it.

The worst thing you can do is invite a bunch of limpers along to the flop and let one of them get lucky with some random flop that gives them a set, two-pair, or some straight or flush draw...
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Old 09-19-2006, 05:57 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - AA hits set on turn, what does villain have?

I def learned my lesson. So, just to clarify, do you never do this? Even if someone will raise most of the time when no one else has?
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Old 09-19-2006, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - AA hits set on turn, what does villain have?

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I def learned my lesson. So, just to clarify, do you never do this? Even if someone will raise most of the time when no one else has?

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I dont do it from anywhere at 25NL. Why get tricky when no one but yourself is even going to know you're being tricky. But if you must do this do it UTG on an aggro table and do it rarely.
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Old 09-19-2006, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - AA hits set on turn, what does villain have?

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I def learned my lesson. So, just to clarify, do you never do this? Even if someone will raise most of the time when no one else has?

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Looking at my PT stats, I've LRR twice in the last 60k+ of hands, both times where a while ago, and both times I regretted it
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Old 09-19-2006, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - AA hits set on turn, what does villain have?

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I def learned my lesson. So, just to clarify, do you never do this? Even if someone will raise most of the time when no one else has?

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if there is a maniac who is 90/60 and is guarenteed to raise but wont call if someone raises in front of him and is super aggro post flop where I can make a [censored] load off him if i can just get him in a pot... then sure ill do it. but its a last resort.
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Old 09-19-2006, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - AA hits set on turn, what does villain have?

I used to LRR at very tight/aggressive full ring tables, in UTG and UTG+1 positions only. At NL25.
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Old 09-19-2006, 07:46 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - AA hits set on turn, what does villain have?

Thanks for your time D, and all the rest. I have already taken your advice. Thanks again.
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Old 09-20-2006, 12:31 AM
Res-Judicata Res-Judicata is offline
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Default Re: 25NL - AA hits set on turn, what does villain have?

The percentage of times you LRR w/ AA should be about the same as the percentage of times you misclick the "call" instead of "raise" button.

I saw the results, but I was gonna tell you that you should call turn and check/call river. Reraising his checkraise is way bad because you can't put him on a hand (because you didn't raise PF). So yeah, people say there are no absolutes in poker. Here's one: never LRR AA from MP.

When I used to play NL25 full ring, someone limped AA from the button. I got 24o in the BB and flopped A35 and he flopped top set. Didn't even need to try too hard to get his money in the pot, "OMG, I have 3 Aces, money go in!!!!" Don't be that guy... uh, too late, but don't be that guy in the future.
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