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Old 09-16-2006, 01:41 AM
Will. Will. is offline
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Default Re: check the flop, call down.

i've been getting into the habit of raising the turn in situations like these.
edit: sometimes at least
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Old 09-16-2006, 07:27 AM
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Default Re: check the flop, call down.

I bet the flop and raise river about every time.
The river seem really really easy and IŽd probably raise it too on a blank.
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Old 09-16-2006, 09:18 AM
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Default Re: check the flop, call down.

I like giving BB enough rope to call the turn. I think you get a call enough from LAGtard to make raising the river here the best play.
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Old 09-16-2006, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: check the flop, call down.

would the super passive calling station call 2 on the turn with a K, 9, or gutshot (67, 78, 68, TJ, TQ, JQ)?

Is it possible super passive calling station has an ace (he's obviously not folding an ace)?

Are there any hands that UTG might bet/call the turn and call the river with that might check the river if you and the other guy call?

I would bet the flop and raise the turn here (which gives you some idea of my answers to those questions).
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Old 09-16-2006, 12:40 PM
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Default Re: check the flop, call down.

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I'd definately bet the flop, I'd for sure raise the river.

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If I wanted votes, I would have made a poll. Can you tell me why you would bet the flop and break down his hand range for getting paid off on the river, thanks.
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Old 09-16-2006, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: check the flop, call down.

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would the super passive calling station call 2 on the turn with a K, 9, or gutshot (67, 78, 68, TJ, TQ, JQ)?

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No, I say super-passive but such player was a tighter type than loose passive.

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Is it possible super passive calling station has an ace (he's obviously not folding an ace)?

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I think the chances of him having an Ace are slim.

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Are there any hands that UTG might bet/call the turn and call the river with that might check the river if you and the other guy call?

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Yes, all the hands you listed in the first question about the call station.
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Old 09-16-2006, 12:56 PM
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Default Re: check the flop, call down.

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I would bet the flop and raise the turn here

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Can you tell me why you would bet the flop and break down his hand range for getting paid off on the river, thanks.
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Old 09-16-2006, 12:58 PM
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Default Re: check the flop, call down.

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I bet the flop and raise river about every time.
The river seem really really easy and IŽd probably raise it too on a blank.

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Trix, my good friend, you are a better poster than this. I didn't want votes, I want reasons behind your vote. Drop some science, please.

Hope things are well,
Joe
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Old 09-16-2006, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: check the flop, call down.

i think raising the turn could trick villain into 3-bet bluffing with QJ or could get a loose call down by a pocket pair or kings, also he may be 3-betting an ace. donno villain well enough to give you any kind of mathematical science on his hand range, but if he is a lag i don't think he would give you credit for the ace if you raised the turn.
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Old 09-16-2006, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: check the flop, call down.

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ace is easiest card in the deck. what are you doing if it blanks? or a jack or ten.

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