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Old 08-26-2006, 04:46 PM
jrz1972 jrz1972 is offline
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Default Re: 10,000 hands stats

If you're winning 60% of your showdowns, at least one of two things is happening:

1) You are not getting to showdown enough or

2) You are running super-duper double-dog hot.

The argument here is the same as how a guy in baseball who successfully steals 100% of the time isn't stealing often enough.
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Old 08-26-2006, 04:48 PM
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Default Re: 10,000 hands stats

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Can you explain why W$SD being high is not good?

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Often you have to call turn and river when you're likely beaten, but still good often enough to see a showdown profitably. If you don't call down in these situations you fold winners too often. Typically WSD (went to showdown) should be 30%-35%, W$SD (won money sd) should be around 55%.

Higher values of W$SD can mean that you're running really hot or that you're too weak (folding too many winners).
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Old 08-26-2006, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: 10,000 hands stats

ATSB blinds I am sure is pretty low I would say should probably be closer to 35% or so but I am not sure at these limits. Which as already said with bump up your PFR.

6 max should look more like 25/16 or something like that.

As others as say won at SD is probably on the higher side.
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Old 08-26-2006, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: 10,000 hands stats

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> 60 w@SD is very high. you could be folding winners. also, you have to filter out < 9 handed hands. don't mix games.

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Can you explain why W@SD being high is not good?

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b/c its often correct to call a bet on the riv only expecting to win 10% of the time.

i can't explain in isolation why 55% is better than 60% is better than 65%. from all the stat posts I've seen, its just the more solid players never had excessively high W@SD's or excessively low W@SD's as they made their way through micros.

you can't go out and try to lower it, rather just be aware that you can likely edge towards a call the next time its a tossup and see how it feels. it could be that high b/c you are running well.
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Old 08-26-2006, 05:08 PM
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Default Stat analysis on running cold.

Do you guys find that when the W$WSF numbers will effect your WTSD and W$SD??

In other words, when you are running cold (W$WSF <30%) then you will go to showdown???

I would argue that if these two are low and your W$WSF is still between 50-56% then you are probably taking hands correctly to the river and just not hiting a flop.
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Old 08-26-2006, 08:28 PM
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Default Re: 10,000 hands stats

*grunch from the cheap seats*

Well done first of all. Excellent accomplishments here. In comparing my stats to yours I noticed a few significant differences which I can't quite understand.

Your VPIP is ~10% lower than mine and yet my W$WSF is ~10% higher than yours.

The key factor I see as the difference is in steal attempts which I think you are a little low on.

The other major difference is your folds to river bets being a bit high. For someone who has such an ideal VPIP number this either means you are going too far in the hand when you should fold earlier or you aren't setting up your turn play enough to get less action against you when you see a river. You have 33% greater action against you on the river than I do, which indicates that people are pushing you on the river.

Your win rate on the river is a bit high which I think confirms that fact.

While my stats are probably not ideal either, our win rate is very close to each other so the comparison may be indicative of style and variance more than anything else.
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Old 08-26-2006, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: 10,000 hands stats

Yeah, I am trying to work on my steals a bit more.

I have a 450$ BR, move up to .5/1?
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Old 08-26-2006, 10:02 PM
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Default Re: 10,000 hands stats

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Yeah, I am trying to work on my steals a bit more.

I have a 450$ BR, move up to .5/1?

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If I were you I would definitely give .5/1 a shot.

Dont know if you have seen this Six max starting hand chart.

It may help you loosen up your blind steal range a little bit but I raise a wider range of hands then this chart does.
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Old 08-26-2006, 10:06 PM
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Default Re: 10,000 hands stats

Is 10k hands even worth looking at? Whether you are running at 20bb/100 or -20bb/100 I think that 10k is just to small to tell anything other than how many hands you have played.
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Old 08-26-2006, 10:12 PM
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Default Re: 10,000 hands stats

Your win rate is 5 bb/100! I wouldn't change a thing.
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