Ak - I have no idea how to play NL - Page 2

drewvy · #11 08-17-2006, 01:38 PM

I lead the river and call a medium raise...given the river check you have to fold w/out a read

4_2_it · #12 08-17-2006, 01:40 PM

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I lead the river and call a medium raise...given the river check you have to fold w/out a read

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What hand does villain have that hero beats here? AT?

mudbuddha · #13 08-17-2006, 01:41 PM

raise more to increase fold equity
whats wrong with that

70% of the time you will miss the flop. and you have the best hand preflop?

what do you do after that
he may float you with anything in position?
and you will have to play 3 streets w/o position

i still think raising more pf is good

SomethingClever · #14 08-17-2006, 01:42 PM

I'd fold the turn. Given that you called, I'd blocking bet the river for about $20 and fold to a raise.

silencio · #15 08-17-2006, 01:44 PM

Thanks for the replies. This will sure need some adjusting in my part.

Well, the villain at hand turned out to be very laggy and bluff happy. How bad is this? How to approache blind battles in general? What about the bet sizes? Should I give up on the river against this player or just push?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($48)
Button ($102.50)
SB ($205.10)
Hero ($76.95)
UTG ($104.55)
MP ($43.95)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
4 folds, SB raises to $2, Hero calls $1.

Flop: ($4) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $3, Hero raises to $6, SB raises to $9, Hero raises to $12, SB calls $3.

Turn: ($28) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $15, SB calls $15.

River: ($58) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $30, SB calls $30.

Final Pot: $118

SomethingClever · #16 08-17-2006, 01:46 PM

Puke. That's an ugly hand, blind battle or not.

This isn't limit (as many have repeatedly told me).

Just call the flop. Bet the turn if he checks, call down reasonably small bets from him otherwise, given your LAG read.

Colonel Kataffy · #17 08-17-2006, 01:47 PM

I definitely don't like the 3 dollar grabass on the flop. If this guy is so loose and bluff happy that your 8 might be good, why not wait untill you have a stronger hand against him.

drewvy · #18 08-17-2006, 01:54 PM

good point...I don't think I'd be at this spot on river but I'd have to bet it....calling raise isnt good probably...

The White Rabbit · #19 08-17-2006, 01:57 PM

Wow, that 2nd hand is ugly as hell.

Call flop, really. And whenever you raise, make a ~potsized raise, not a retarded minraise.

As played check behind turn and check behind river, no better hand is folding and I seriously doubt whether a worse hand is calling.

SomethingClever · #20 08-17-2006, 02:00 PM

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Wow, that 2nd hand is ugly as hell.

Call flop, really. And whenever you raise, make a ~potsized raise, not a retarded minraise.

As played check behind turn and check behind river, no better hand is folding and I seriously doubt whether a worse hand is calling.

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I find that betting the turn in situations like this (when checked to) allows me to check behind on the river far more frequently than otherwise. Otherwise I often face a bluff or blocking bet.

Also, given read, villain will call with worse hands.