engagement over who gets the ring?

[Scotch78]

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what legal standpoint is that?

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Probably the fact that he can document his claim to ownership with a receipt and she cannot.

Scott

[wmonfor]

Does anyone else feel that a trip report is in order?

[PokerFink]

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I see it all the GD time

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Am I missing something here?

[microbet]

I don't really know anything about this other than what I've seen in movies. I think she's supposed to throw it down the sewer grate and run off crying. The next man she meets will be wonderful.

On a more serious note, there's a lot of info on wikipedia including:

Tradition generally holds that if the betrothal fails because the man pursues other women or himself breaks off the engagement, the woman is not obliged to return the ring. Legally, this condition can be subject to either a modified or a strict fault rule. Under the former, the fiancé can demand the return of the ring unless he breaks the engagement. Under the latter, the fiancé is entitled to the return unless their actions caused the breakup of the relationship, the same as the traditional approach. However, a no-fault rule is being advanced in some jurisdictions, under which the fiancé is always entitled to the return of the ring. The ring only becomes the property of the woman when marriage occurs. An unconditional gift approach is another possibility, wherein the ring is always treated as a gift, to be kept by the fiancée whether or not the relationship progresses to marriage. [1]

[Alobar]

The guy absolutely gets the ring bacl if the girl ends it (or cheats on him). Since hes the one who cheated, all bets are off.

[Kneel B4 Zod]

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what legal standpoint is that?

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Probably the fact that he can document his claim to ownership with a receipt and she cannot.

Scott

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so I am legally entitled to take back that xbox I bought my buddy a few years ago?

[Kneel B4 Zod]

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That it is a conditional gift.

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I guess that makes sense, but him cheating on the girl would seem to be a good reason for this 'condition' ending

[Vehn]

my ex didn't cheat on me but when it ended I just told her to keep the ring because I didn't care to go sell it or have it hanging around. I bought it for $5k out of my bankroll, she pawned it last week for $800.

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[miajag]

lol, who pawns things? did she buy crack with the money?

[Vehn]

probably. hopefully I'll see her on the street giving $10 bjs. but probably not. that was never really her forte.