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#11
01-20-2006, 12:02 PM
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Re: Party and Stars 3/6 6-max rake in BB/100
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This is technically a zoo topic, but it's more than relevant to 6 max players. People have worked out that Stars VIP is worth up to 13-15% rakeback when you hit the highest levels, but since you're not getting cash, the utility of their rewards is lower than that, depending on how much you want the stuff they're offering. [/ QUOTE ]btw is that for supernova or platinum? 
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#12
01-20-2006, 12:26 PM
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Re: Party and Stars 3/6 6-max rake in BB/100
I've always been a Stars guy since I started playing SH myself.
Without using any table selection, I seem to run into the same basic tables at both sites. Maybe 2 decent players, 1 big fish, and 1 mediocre player who doesn't raise enough. Maybe at Party the 5th player is more likely to be another fish or maniac as opposed to another mediocre player. To me that difference is not significant enough to pay the extra rake. But whatever - 90% of 2+2ers playing Party is fine w/ me.
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#13
01-20-2006, 12:55 PM
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Re: Party and Stars 3/6 6-max rake in BB/100
Both. IIRC, they accrue points at the same rate. The utility for supernova is marginally higher, since there's more stuff you can get, though.
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#14
01-20-2006, 01:14 PM
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Re: Party and Stars 3/6 6-max rake in BB/100
how do you get PT to work for stars, and can u datamine stars? WIth the stuff we have had recently about the stars rake, it has really gotten me thinking about moving money back there
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#15
01-20-2006, 01:16 PM
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Re: Party and Stars 3/6 6-max rake in BB/100
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Party: 2.88 BB/100 Stars: 2.43 BB/100. This means Party's rake is 19% higher. [/ QUOTE ] why wouldn't this just mean that there are larger pots on average at Party? There's no doubt that the rake structure on Stars is favorable. But just looking at average-rake taken per 100 hands is not enough imo. Site A and Site B have EXACTLY the same rake-structure. Site A 3/6 - average pot is $15 Site B 3/6 - average pot is $50 OMG!!! Look how much more rake they are taking on Site B!! Site B really sucks!!!
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#16
01-20-2006, 01:24 PM
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Re: Party and Stars 3/6 6-max rake in BB/100
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how do you get PT to work for stars, and can u datamine stars? WIth the stuff we have had recently about the stars rake, it has really gotten me thinking about moving money back there [/ QUOTE ] PT works for Stars just like for normal non-Party sites. Auto-import HHs - second selection under "File." No, you cannot datamine it to my knowledge.
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#18
01-20-2006, 02:39 PM
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Re: Party and Stars 3/6 6-max rake in BB/100
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[ QUOTE ] Party: 2.88 BB/100 Stars: 2.43 BB/100. This means Party's rake is 19% higher. [/ QUOTE ] why wouldn't this just mean that there are larger pots on average at Party? There's no doubt that the rake structure on Stars is favorable. But just looking at average-rake taken per 100 hands is not enough imo. Site A and Site B have EXACTLY the same rake-structure. Site A 3/6 - average pot is $15 Site B 3/6 - average pot is $50 OMG!!! Look how much more rake they are taking on Site B!! Site B really sucks!!! [/ QUOTE ] totally agree I'd be amazed if Party didn't have an ave pot at least 1BB higher plus party has 5times the game selection
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#19
01-20-2006, 03:09 PM
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Re: Party and Stars 3/6 6-max rake in BB/100
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Party: 2.88 BB/100 Stars: 2.43 BB/100. This means Party's rake is 19% higher. [/ QUOTE ] why wouldn't this just mean that there are larger pots on average at Party? There's no doubt that the rake structure on Stars is favorable. But just looking at average-rake taken per 100 hands is not enough imo. Site A and Site B have EXACTLY the same rake-structure. Site A 3/6 - average pot is $15 Site B 3/6 - average pot is $50 OMG!!! Look how much more rake they are taking on Site B!! Site B really sucks!!! [/ QUOTE ] totally agree I'd be amazed if Party didn't have an ave pot at least 1BB higher plus party has 5times the game selection [/ QUOTE ] they have 5 times the game selection yes but the average isnt higher. Atleast not now.
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#20
01-20-2006, 03:12 PM
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Re: Party and Stars 3/6 6-max rake in BB/100
The average is probably still a little bit higher...but i really don't know.
Just looking at average-rake per 100 hands could mean that the rake-structure is worse OR that the avg-pot size is higher. In this case, I think it's a little bit of both. It definitely does not concretely mean, "Party is taking 19% more rake in this sample...thus their rake-structure is 19% higher."
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