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[GT123]

this is a lower flush or 2 pair often enough to 3-bet this river. I think fearing a higher flush is scared poker, and causes you to miss bets.

[milesdyson]

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there is no way in hell I'm not taking this to 3 town. Even if we are capped I'd still expect to win a ton against a LAG.

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agree 100%

[Big Poppa Smurf]

Given how aggressive he seems to be, I also think he'd probably 3-bet the turn with hands that beat you.

[MacGuyV]

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easy river 3 bet imo

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[27offsooot]

OK, maybe i'm trying to hand read too much. And maybe this only applies to better players which I can't say that he is with a limited read (He turned out to be TAG later on), but I hadn't noticed anything donkish yet. BB rarely has just a pair on the flop. He's raising if he does on this ragged board any pair that he's calling with. He prob has a a draw or a set.
On the turn, his draw either came in, he a straight draw that hasn't yet, or he has a set. I think b/3/b is prob better, but i wanted to get an extra bb our of MP. So I don't really like my turn decision that much. Also if he did call with a GS or OESD on the flop, it also came in or he has a pair now with an OESD and will fire.

On the river I think it's interesting. If I don't think he has just a pair on the flop, then I don't think the K gave him two pair. If he has a low diamond flush, or a set, or a str8, he's three betting the turn to eliminate or charge higher diamonds. His line made me think he wanted an overcall from MP. So what does that leave, higher flushes. That's why i think three betting the river is bad. But nobody ever seems to agree wtih my river decisions, so whatever.

I think i have one of the highest river aggs on the forum though (like 1.88 last time i checked), but i don't think this is a time to three bet.

Anyway, he had KTd, so once again my thoughts may be skewed, but my analysis during the hand is why i didn't three bet.

[Scary_Tiger]

Still an easy easy 3-bet.

[MacGuyV]

OK color me not impressed with his play. Are you ever ever ever folding to a 3bet after screwplaying/trap checkraising two players on the turn? Ever? Not 3betting the turn is terrible on his part; especially when MP is much more likely to call 2 cold on the turn than the river with what looks like a draw.

[Scary_Tiger]

Yes, he played his hand poorly. I thought this was a given? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[MacGuyV]

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Yes, he played his hand poorly. I thought this was a given? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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The implication was that the turn/river line from a decent player is more disconcerting than from a donkish player. My point is, I think it's the opposite (although I'd 3bet vs. either).

[sightless]

I donk turn and 3bet the river.