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Old 01-18-2006, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: Wat do do with A10s here?

I am the only one who says push. This a great resteal/semibluff opportunity.

Unless he has aces, at worst you are a 7-3 dog with pot odds. You are not necessarily dominated if called. He could easily call with KQ, 99, A9, or something. You should have excellent FE. A big stack could easily be making loose raises in the minibubble.

You pick up 21K if he folds. You lose an average of about 18K if he calls and you are dominated. If he calls and you win, you will have 140K and probably be in third place or something.

Plus I don't like people raising my BB. If I bust out defending with ATs so be it.

You have a perfect stack size for a resteal and villain is a big stack raising on the minibubble. This is a good restealing situation.

Incidently, ATs is strong but could be dominated. I am probably pushing here with any restealing hand, any pp, suited connector/gapper, two broadway cards, etc.
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Old 01-18-2006, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: Wat do do with A10s here?

If you give him a tightish calling range of 77+, AJ+. You need him to fold about 50% of the time here to make a push correct.

Assuming this is never a straight steal, you would need him to be raising a range like: A9+, KT+, 44+ to make a push correct. Since we have to add in at least 10% pure bluffs here. I am certain a push is better than a fold. I would be interested to here what others thought about other lines than might be better than a push. I could see calling and leading the flop being valid here as well.

***I forgot about antes, you need him to fold even less than 50% of the time for a push to be profitable. Plus this can help keep people off your blinds in the future, which is always nice.
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Old 01-18-2006, 02:54 PM
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If you give him a tightish calling range of 77+, AJ+. You need him to fold about 50% of the time here to make a push correct.

Assuming this is never a straight steal, you would need him to be raising a range like: A9+, KT+, 44+ to make a push correct. Since we have to add in at least 10% pure bluffs here. I am certain a push is better than a fold. I would be interested to here what others thought about other lines than might be better than a push. I could see calling and leading the flop being valid here as well.

***I forgot about antes, you need him to fold even less than 50% of the time for a push to be profitable. Plus this can help keep people off your blinds in the future, which is always nice.

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You need for him to fold about 45% of the time if he always dominates you if he calls. Realistically, you may be called by 55-99, Ax, or Kx. So maybe you need 35% folds.

I am pretty sure the push is cEV+ unless you are sure the big stack is a very tight raiser.

If villain calls and loses, he will no longer a big stack, so I think you have decent FE.

Plus, if it is borderline, I want to defend my blind and gamble to make the big money.

You could also play it as a stop and go. Call and push any flop. Once you call, there is 33K in the pot and you have 38K left, so I think you have to push any flop, unless you flop a flush or it comes ATT or something.
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Old 01-18-2006, 03:32 PM
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omg i agree with betgo.

I push this every day and twice on sunday or something like that.
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Old 01-18-2006, 03:39 PM
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I am either pushing or stop n go here.
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Old 01-18-2006, 05:07 PM
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I push this every day and twice on sunday or something like that.

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Old 01-18-2006, 07:55 PM
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I thought for quite a while and ended up pushing in. The big stack took his time, but eventually called with AJ and I was knocked out. At the time I wanted to gamble, in order to put myself into good position to make the final table, but as a few people have said, I really had no reason to panic and I also did not have a solid read on this player. Thanks for the help.
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