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Old 06-26-2006, 07:10 PM
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Is there a computer out there powerful enough to randomize a deck of cards that quickly???

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LMAO... This rocks.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:25 PM
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Is there a computer out there powerful enough to randomize a deck of cards that quickly???

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I don't think so.

You would have to create a table containing all possible ways a deck of cards can be arranged. Then you would have to randomly chose one of the table entries and start the game with it.

There are 52! ways a deck of cards can be arranged, what turns out to about 8.066x10^67 ways. You now would need to create a table containing all these posibilities. Assuming you need one byte of memory per card you would need 8.066x10^67 x 52 bytes to store that table. That would be about 4.194x10^57 terabytes. No known computer has that much storage.

Even if you had that table stored, and created the random number of the table entry you desire to use, it still would take a loooong time to search through the table for that entry and read it.

So the answer to your question is a very obvious 'no, there isn't'.

The question we have to ask ourselves is: Why do the online poker sites still try to make us believe they actually start every game with a shuffled deck? Or: How does it work?
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Old 06-26-2006, 10:45 PM
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My head just exploded.

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Old 06-26-2006, 10:45 PM
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Actually they only pick the cards at random one at a time, as they are dealt. They don't "shuffle" the whole deck before the deal.
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Old 06-27-2006, 06:42 AM
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The question we have to ask ourselves is: Why do the online poker sites still try to make us believe they actually start every game with a shuffled deck? Or: How does it work?

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I think the following procedure is the most likely explanation:
1. Randomly place the cards, face up, on the windows desktop, and display them on a screen.
2. Take a screen dump.
3. Analyze the image, to determine the order of the cards.
4. Repeat until an "action flop" is created.
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Old 06-27-2006, 08:04 AM
Mike Haven Mike Haven is offline
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They use two decks.

While the first is being dealt, they are shuffling the second.

If you tell everyone at the table to pre-click Fold, you can catch the sites out, as they haven't finished shuffling the second deck and they have to pretend there's an internet delay.

It doesn't do much good, but you can all have a laugh together thinking of Support running round saying "What are we gonna do? What are we gonna do? We've been caught red-handed!"
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Old 06-27-2006, 08:28 AM
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They use two decks.

While the first is being dealt, they are shuffling the second.

If you tell everyone at the table to pre-click Fold, you can catch the sites out, as they haven't finished shuffling the second deck and they have to pretend there's an internet delay.

It doesn't do much good, but you can all have a laugh together thinking of Support running round saying "What are we gonna do? What are we gonna do? We've been caught red-handed!"

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All true.

Sometimes the noise when a card is dealt is a little 'off' from how it normally sounds. Party is dealing seconds when this happens. You can tell by the sound. Watch Rounders again to confirm.
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Old 06-27-2006, 10:10 AM
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i´m sure you work for Microsoft and your thought process behind is the reason the software is so bad [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 06-27-2006, 10:45 AM
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If you tell everyone at the table to pre-click Fold, you can catch the sites out, as they haven't finished shuffling the second deck and they have to pretend there's an internet delay.

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When this happens, or if they're giving me bad cards, I sit out until there's a dealer change.
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Old 06-27-2006, 10:51 AM
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They use two decks.

While the first is being dealt, they are shuffling the second.

If you tell everyone at the table to pre-click Fold, you can catch the sites out, as they haven't finished shuffling the second deck and they have to pretend there's an internet delay.

It doesn't do much good, but you can all have a laugh together thinking of Support running round saying "What are we gonna do? What are we gonna do? We've been caught red-handed!"

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All true.

Sometimes the noise when a card is dealt is a little 'off' from how it normally sounds. Party is dealing seconds when this happens. You can tell by the sound. Watch Rounders again to confirm.

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lol this thread is awesome
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