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Old 12-31-2005, 08:00 PM
CardSharpCook CardSharpCook is offline
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Default Re: 20-40 hand with Per_Ensign

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Um, no. Per is a good player, not an agrofish. Folding the turn is fine. Having made it to the river, you have to call.

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good players don't sometimes cap in this spot preflop with AQs? maybe he thinks he can push the OP off his hand postflop

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Not unless they are tilting, which happens.

No good limit player believes he can push someone off a hand.
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Old 12-31-2005, 09:25 PM
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When Per called the turn bet I really thought he had AK, but figured I would call here and by my calling he would know I had an ace too so if he called the river I was screwed. Also since I had an ace and I thought Per did, I thought there was at least a 25-30% chance the fish had the 6. Even if I would have had AK I think its close.

As it was the fish shows A2 and scoops as per had QQ (wtf??). Thought he played better than that. Wish he did, i'd be $400 richer.
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Old 12-31-2005, 09:33 PM
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Default Re: 20-40 hand with Per_Ensign

in my experience, fishies check/raise trips on the turn more than they donk them. I think I call if I have AK.
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Old 12-31-2005, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: 20-40 hand with Per_Ensign

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in my experience, fishies check/raise trips on the turn more than they donk them. I think I call if I have AK.

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I agree but with 2 players acting after him and my thinking that PER had an ace what else can the fishy have but a 6? I suck at poker.
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Old 12-31-2005, 10:01 PM
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Default Re: 20-40 hand with Per_Ensign

I agree with Bob, but I was going to say your play was perfect until I read the results. Dunno what Per was thinking.
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Old 12-31-2005, 10:03 PM
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Default Re: 20-40 hand with Per_Ensign

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in my experience, fishies check/raise trips on the turn more than they donk them. I think I call if I have AK.

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I agree but with 2 players acting after him and my thinking that PER had an ace what else can the fishy have but a 6? I suck at poker.

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well, fishies often do not think. next time have AK in this spot, as it will be much easier to play. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 01-01-2006, 08:33 AM
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Default Re: 20-40 hand with Per_Ensign

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Oh, and raise the turn.

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I don't particularily like raising the turn for a couple of reasons.

One, it's most likely the fish has a weaker A and is drawing to 3 outs and is less likely he has a legit draw. However, if fish did indeed have trips, he is 3-betting you, and I don't think I'm letting this hand go.

Two, I think it's obvious by the play that Per has KK (or QQ). Raising simply lets Per off the hook when he's drawing to 2 outs (in reality 1). Call me greedy, but I want one bet from him on the river too.

Garland
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Old 01-01-2006, 09:10 AM
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Default Re: 20-40 hand with Per_Ensign

How many hands does he have on you? If you really are 13-10, might I suggest folding your BB to steals less? Just a thought
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Old 01-01-2006, 10:24 AM
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Maybe raising more early, and calling less?
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Old 01-01-2006, 11:59 AM
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There's about $530 in the pot on the river. For $40 getting about 13:1 to close it out, looks like you lost track of the numbers for what should be an easy call and were more focused on Per.
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