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#12
06-17-2006, 05:31 PM
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Re: US - Italy World Cup Soccer - one of the games of our time
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I posted this in OOT because I think the game has more of a cultural impact than only simple sports impact. [/ QUOTE ] Cultural impact? Bwahahahaha. For something to have cultural impact, a significant portion of the population needs to care about the event. Not the case here. For your info, the ref was from Uruguay. Uruguay is in South America, not Europe. 
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#13
06-17-2006, 05:31 PM
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Re: US - Italy World Cup Soccer - one of the games of our time
Also as far as the world impact goes, maybe if it was Iran, but this is Italy its not like theres lot of political tension there and as much as Europeans might hate us they still like us more than just about any other country.
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06-17-2006, 06:17 PM
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Re: US - Italy World Cup Soccer - one of the games of our time
well done America, you played a game of football against world class opposition and didn't lose. I'm not sure if this really marks a turning point in world sporting history, but hey, only time will tell.
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#16
06-17-2006, 06:32 PM
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Re: US - Italy World Cup Soccer - one of the games of our time
If we had scored in the waning minutes of the game then this match might have been talked about in "Miracle on Ice" terms.
However, we didn't.
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#17
06-17-2006, 06:37 PM
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Re: US - Italy World Cup Soccer - one of the games of our time
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If we had scored in the waning minutes of the game then this match might have been talked about in "Miracle on Ice" terms. However, we didn't. [/ QUOTE ] OP agrees
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#19
06-17-2006, 06:57 PM
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Re: US - Italy World Cup Soccer - one of the games of our time
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[ QUOTE ] If we had scored in the waning minutes of the game then this match might have been talked about in "Miracle on Ice" terms. However, we didn't. [/ QUOTE ] OP agrees [/ QUOTE ] No way. Firstly, the US national soccer team outdid the miracle on ice in the 1950 World Cup win over England 1-0. As is famously noted, an English paper got the score and assumed they forgot to put the 1 in front and listed the score as US 1 - 10 England. The miracle on ice game itself was only so big because the US went on to win the gold medal. Even if the US had won that match it would have been extremely difficult to qualify for the next stage. No way would a win over Italy be talked about like the miracle on ice when the US is bounced from the competition on its next match. I think you have both rather drastically overstated the importance of the match. Historically, it is not nearly as big as the win over Portugal in 2002 or Colombia in 1994. Both those teams were trendy picks to win the World Cup that year (I believe Pele had picked each of them). Also, it wasn't that big of an upset anyway. I'm way lower on the US than most people here and I would have said Italy had about a 50% chance to win, the US had about a 10-20% chance to win and the draw the remaining 30-40%. It was a draw. Americans don't care about a draw. The draw doesn't exist in American sports (ok in football it can happen and has happened once or twice time in my lifetime). Italy aren't nearly as good as they have been in the past. In no way is this result historical.
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#20
06-17-2006, 07:03 PM
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Re: US - Italy World Cup Soccer - one of the games of our time
Can I just point out that the British fan base was overwelmingly in support of the Americans. The French hate the Italians. The Germans hate the Italiians, The Poles hate the Italians, The Austrians hate the Italians.
No one bought the ref, as most independent reports state the decisions were at the very worst marginally wrong but most agree that they were fair. Don't dress up what was a very good performance/result by the US with this 'the refs hate us' crap.
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