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Old 06-13-2006, 11:45 PM
vixticator vixticator is offline
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Default Re: Wait until the turn?

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but, more often than not, a weaker holding does not call down, and what calls down are some hands you don't actually beat. like AT, KT, etc.

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How does this change by check-raising the flop? All of this holds true there as well.
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Old 06-13-2006, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: Wait until the turn?

well, it doesn't really. but have a better chance of getting away from a hand if dominated, because AT and overpairs should 3-bet.
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Old 06-14-2006, 02:21 AM
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well, it doesn't really. but have a better chance of getting away from a hand if dominated, because AT and overpairs should 3-bet.

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im never folding this hand against this opponent, even if he 15 bets the flop. If he 3bets the flop, check call down.
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Old 06-14-2006, 03:21 AM
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I think it's ok. nh
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Old 06-14-2006, 03:23 AM
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You can't be folding this hand to aggression shown by this player. Once you flop this hand you're just going to have to get to showdown. He'll 3-bet the flop with ALOT of the hands you beat when you CR him.
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Old 06-14-2006, 01:22 PM
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You can't be folding this hand to aggression shown by this player. Once you flop this hand you're just going to have to get to showdown. He'll 3-bet the flop with ALOT of the hands you beat when you CR him.

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and do you think you have 33-50% equity against all of those hands? what if his post-flop aggro was <0.5? do you think he can 3-bet with AK, 99, A8, or 2 clubs?

maybe you are right, but for me this is read specific. it's interesting that this player is 50/25, or LAG preflop. but 1.0 postflop shows that he can be passive. probably becoming passive with the mediocre holdings that he likes to play PF, and very aggressive with premium hands. (i know you've seen players like this)

1.0 it's borderline, he needs to be generally higher, and much higher if he is truly LAG. but let's say you C/R flop, he 3-bet, and you capped. then he leads the turn. would you call down still?

i think flop C/R gives you a better chance (info) for deciding on the calldown. turn C/R only encourages him to fold high cards, and call-down TPGK.
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