Quentin Tarantino and Plagerism? - Page 2

Charles Richter · #11 06-12-2006, 09:55 AM

I've heard that Reservoir Dogs is basically completely ripped. Haven't seen the original though.

Pulp Fiction, of course. It's supposed to be an amalgam of everything, so it's not going to hide it.

theBruiser500 · #12 06-12-2006, 09:55 AM

i dont think it matters. if it's like "cheating" what he does to make good movies who cares they are really great movies and let other directors copy material and see if they can make movies as good as taratino. don't think so. but if they could let them do it, i love watching good movies

pryor15 · #13 06-12-2006, 10:06 AM

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I read a Tarentino quote somewhere,

"Good artists borrow, great artists steal."

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uh, he stole that too. that's, i think, t.s. eliot

pryor15 · #14 06-12-2006, 10:12 AM

i've often described Kill Bill 1 as being the equivalent of making a mix CD and claiming it to be your new album

it's true that nearly everyone in film "steals" shots from everyone else, but i highly doubt anyone does it as often and as blatantly as QT. At first it was clever and kind of cute, but like more derivative work, it hits a point of diminishing returns rather quickly and his stock begins to drops as people begin to wonder if the man's got any real ideas. hell, he's even started stealing from himself. personally, i think his inability to grow as an artist is going to affect how Pulp Fiction is viewed in 50 years by the serious film community.

BarronVangorToth · #15 06-12-2006, 10:31 AM

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how Pulp Fiction is viewed in 50 years by the serious film community.

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Millions will see him as a revolutionary icon. A half-dozen film geeks will call him derivative. I'm sure his grandkids will be able to hold their heads up high.

yukoncpa · #16 06-12-2006, 10:37 AM

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This is actually (with a little bit of flourish) the passage from Ezekiel Chapter 25. So, he may have stolen the idea, but it's not like he lifted that dialogue from that movie, he lifted it from the Bible.

[/ QUOTE ] Someone must have used a whole lot of "flourish". I'm looking in Ezekiel 25 and I see the word vengence, but that's pretty much where the similarity ends.

I was watching resoivor dogs and the bald headed guy said, "ok ramblers, time to ramble" then I switched over to an Elvis Presley Movie and there's the same, exact line - "Ok ramblers, time to ramble"

pryor15 · #17 06-12-2006, 10:44 AM

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how Pulp Fiction is viewed in 50 years by the serious film community.

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Millions will see him as a revolutionary icon. A half-dozen film geeks will call him derivative. I'm sure his grandkids will be able to hold their heads up high.

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of course millions will find him to be an icon, but they aren't the serious film community.

hell, grandkids are always proud if their grandfather was a filmmaker. i'd be proud if Michael Bay was my grandfather (assuming, of course, i got a trust fund out of it)

Charles Richter · #18 06-12-2006, 10:54 AM

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how Pulp Fiction is viewed in 50 years by the serious film community.

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Millions will see him as a revolutionary icon. A half-dozen film geeks will call him derivative. I'm sure his grandkids will be able to hold their heads up high.

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of course millions will find him to be an icon, but they aren't the serious film community.

hell, grandkids are always proud if their grandfather was a filmmaker. i'd be proud if Michael Bay was my grandfather (assuming, of course, i got a trust fund out of it)

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QT is basically to recent film what Nirvana is to music (the only - major - difference being Cobain's death). Putting something out like a Pulp Fiction or a Nevermind goes a long way.

That is to say, people have gotten very sick of Nirvana just as some may have gotten tired of QT. But denying the quality is being dumb. There are few movies that are so unanimously on everybody's lists as PF.

BarronVangorToth · #19 06-12-2006, 10:59 AM

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they aren't the serious film community.

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You do realize that almost no one on the planet actually cares what The Serious Film Community has to say about anything, don't you? Given the choice between having your work adored by millions but not by a few Of The Great And Secret Show -or- having no one like your work, but, by golly, three dudes in one coffee shop think you are A True Voice -- is there really any choice?

"Show me any guy who ever said he didn't want to be popular, and I'll show you a scared guy. I've studied the entire history of music. Most of the time, the best stuff is the popular stuff. It's easy to say popularity sucks, because that allows you to forgive yourself if you suck. And I don't forgive myself. Do you?"
-Jason Lee as Jeff Bebe in Almost Famous

pryor15 · #20 06-12-2006, 11:06 AM

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they aren't the serious film community.

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You do realize that almost no one on the planet actually cares what The Serious Film Community has to say about anything, don't you?

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i bet QT does.

the vast majority of people don't give a [censored] about film history, but that doesn't lessen its importance to the people who do, and there are a lot of them.

edit: who said anything about popularity?