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#11
06-01-2006, 01:30 PM
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Re: Home rules fair?
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I mean, these new guys talking about the string bet rule were the same ones showing their cards off to everyone who folded so they could get their opinion on it. [/ QUOTE ] Remind them about that when they whine about the string bet. However, as host, I would have accepted the string bet call and THEN explained the rule, for future hands, since YOU were the string bettor. 
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#12
06-01-2006, 04:46 PM
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Re: Home rules fair?
You should of explained the special rules to the guests before they started to play.
Outside of that, why don't you guys simply change your rules to reflect the proper way of play. It would save problems like this. All you had to say was either rasie or all in and then you could of moved your piles in one at a time. I went to a game once as a spare and there were some things they did different, like who is the SB in heads up play and so on. During the game someone asked me a couple of questions and what I do with certain rules. I explained it refering to rules I found on the net. About 4 weeks later I was invited back (as a spare ) and they had changed every rule based on my one comment. I was thanked for mentioning where to find the rules.
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#13
06-01-2006, 05:33 PM
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Re: Home rules fair?
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"When I host, in the interest of the game and fairness I tend to cut myself the least amount of slack on judgement calls. I find it helps my credibility in the long run this way. " This should be on the first page of every host's "How to Run a Home Game" manual. [/ QUOTE ] Exactly. You should have accepted the string bet call graciously and then laid down the law after the hand. "Look, you see we've been running things pretty loosely - we haven't said anything when you've been flashing your cards around, etc. We don't enforce string bets when it's obvious what the person is doing and they are not angle shooting. From now on the raise stands. Remember this is first and foremost a friendly game."
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#14
06-01-2006, 07:24 PM
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Re: Home rules fair?
The verbal bet was binding so it wasn't a string bet. The only problem I have is the "I call.... and raise." part because that can confuse some players, especially those used to playing in a casino. If you guys know your system then do what you will. Maybe save the trouble of telling everyone and just post the rules and expectations.
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#15
06-02-2006, 09:50 AM
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Re: Home rules fair?
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The verbal bet was binding so it wasn't a string bet. The only problem I have is the "I call.... and raise." part because that can confuse some players, especially those used to playing in a casino. If you guys know your system then do what you will. Maybe save the trouble of telling everyone and just post the rules and expectations. [/ QUOTE ] ??? Are responding to the right thread, or do you have a bot to post for you and this is the response it puts in all threads with the string "string bet"? I think the issue here is that there was no verbal bet made by the OP. The closest thing he said was "I guess I have to do it". That is not a bet, it could mean fold, it could mean call. Then he acted and put out a string bet. It was a string bet and he should have held himself to it as a gracious host.
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#16
06-02-2006, 10:23 AM
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Re: Home rules fair?
As Khabbi said... ??? what post are you reading/quoting from?
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#17
06-03-2006, 11:08 AM
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Re: Home rules fair?
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Having an another player act as an alternate TD when you're in a disputed hand is also a good way to handle things. [/ QUOTE ] We asked everyone at the table, regulars and guests alike. Everyone there said that they knew exactly my intentions and the raise should stand. Besides the other guy in the hand of course.
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#18
06-03-2006, 12:04 PM
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Re: Home rules fair?
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[ QUOTE ] The verbal bet was binding so it wasn't a string bet. The only problem I have is the "I call.... and raise." part because that can confuse some players, especially those used to playing in a casino. If you guys know your system then do what you will. Maybe save the trouble of telling everyone and just post the rules and expectations. [/ QUOTE ] ??? Are responding to the right thread, or do you have a bot to post for you and this is the response it puts in all threads with the string "string bet"? I think the issue here is that there was no verbal bet made by the OP. The closest thing he said was "I guess I have to do it". That is not a bet, it could mean fold, it could mean call. Then he acted and put out a string bet. It was a string bet and he should have held himself to it as a gracious host. [/ QUOTE ] AGREED
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#19
06-04-2006, 03:25 PM
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Re: Home rules fair?
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[ QUOTE ] Having an another player act as an alternate TD when you're in a disputed hand is also a good way to handle things. [/ QUOTE ] We asked everyone at the table, regulars and guests alike. Everyone there said that they knew exactly my intentions and the raise should stand. Besides the other guy in the hand of course. [/ QUOTE ] As David says, it would make much more sense to change your rules more in line with those found in casinos. That way there simply wouldn't be a situation where you have to ask everyone around the table how they all interpreted the action. It's not difficult to play by the string bet rule and is easy enough for novices to learn (normally after making the mistake for their first time). It would save a LOT of arguments if you simply state what you are doing first before making your bet, whereas I don't see any advantage to not enforcing the string bet rule. The same goes for showing cards someone has folded in the middle of a hand. In the interests of a fair game, it makes more sense to have uniformity and understanding of such rules. Even though it's a friendly game, there is still money at stake so the easiest rules to follow would be standard casino rules. Someone also suggested that having a TD would prevent such incidents, however, for a small home game I think it's unlikely you'd get any volunteers as anyone who turns up with a knowledge of the game is going to want to play more than anything else (although it would of course be useful).
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#20
06-05-2006, 10:09 AM
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Re: Home rules fair?
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[ QUOTE ] Having an another player act as an alternate TD when you're in a disputed hand is also a good way to handle things. [/ QUOTE ] We asked everyone at the table, regulars and guests alike. Everyone there said that they knew exactly my intentions and the raise should stand. Besides the other guy in the hand of course. [/ QUOTE ] This still really doesn't change much in my opinion. Enforcing a non-standard rule on a guest IMO is just poor hosting (if the player wasn't made aware of the rule change before hand). It's especially bad when the only player to benefit is the host. Bottom line, the answer to your question is that this does not seem fair to me. I don't have a problem with the rule itself, just the implementation.
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