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Old 05-30-2006, 03:14 PM
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Great post!
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Old 05-30-2006, 03:15 PM
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Could someone please tell me what a squeeze play is?

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Squeeze play is where one guy raises who has very light raising standards, then the rest of the field calls...you are on the button and raise to 25BB's to fold everyone out and take all the dead money.

Another example...shorty goes all in for 15bb's...one guy calls, you go all in for 100bb's with AQ. You are trying to isolate against shorty's likely small pocket pair and go headsup with two live overs with an additional 15bb's in dead money in the pot.
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Old 05-30-2006, 03:18 PM
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Marginal but sometimes valuable timing tells

Assuming a villain normally acts in a certain period of time, sometimes something outside of that normal range can give you a tell. The most common one is the delayed call or bet. If a villain raised on the flop and then a flush card falls, and that villain takes an inordinately long period to act after the card hits, it's almost a certainty that he hit the flush. I can't tell you how many times I've seen this and it's been the flush. They are thinking that you'll associate their long thought period with weakness, but in reality it's strength. I generally insta-fold TP with this read and i'm almost always right. This read is subject to a villain that is only single-tabling though. If it's against a multi-tabling tag it's not as reliable as he could be acting on another table, etc.


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I learned from cardrunners that the opposite of this is also true. If you have position on a villian and they are betting very fast, they are usually weak but trying to represent strength. It is worth raising the turn with these guys if you want them to fold. Raising will usually get them to give up the hand. But if your hand is very strong, just call down or raise the river so as not to scare them off too early committing them to the pot.

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Old 05-30-2006, 03:29 PM
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Good post. You stole a bit of my thunder, as I was planning to make a way way late Pooh-bah post about 'qualitative reads in NL'.
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Old 05-30-2006, 03:41 PM
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Good post. You stole a bit of my thunder, as I was planning to make a way way late Pooh-bah post about 'qualitative reads in NL'.

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I'd like to read that. You can't have too much of a good thing.
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Old 05-30-2006, 03:51 PM
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Default Re: Belated Carpal Tunnel Post - Reads (hijacked from Fallen Hero)

Brilliant post!
With regard to the timing section, there is a read which I have found very useful. On a draw heavy flop, check-insta-call is almost always a draw. Steal this pot when the draw doesnt hit. Also, after such action, if a brick falls on the river, many villains will make a mini-bet steal (this is quite so reliable). I don't know if this is common knowledge, but I thought I would throw it out there anyway.
Thanks,
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Old 05-30-2006, 04:02 PM
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Default Re: Belated Carpal Tunnel Post - Reads (hijacked from Fallen Hero)

You can still do!
Do it!
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Old 05-30-2006, 04:20 PM
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lovely dj nice work. lol @ no. 4
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Old 05-30-2006, 04:43 PM
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This is good material!
How many tables do you play simultaneously?

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I wrote this in the other thread too. I find it can be tough to make good notes real-time. Lately I've been reviewing all big pots in PT, whether I was involved in them or after the session ends. You can import notes, add to them and export again.
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Old 05-30-2006, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: Belated Carpal Tunnel Post - Reads (hijacked from Fallen Hero)

eh . . . great post . . . but that takes a hell of alot time to go through the hand history of each play while i'm multi-tabling. plus there are so many variables, i wouldn't know where to start. assume i'm playing 4 tables, that's 20 opponents, and assume that any given opponent is only there for 100 hands at each table and they only go to showdown 9 times (30% WTSD x 30 VPIP): that seems like a small sample to make any decisions on. and once those 100 hands are done, they usually leave the table. know what i mean?
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