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Old 05-23-2006, 09:06 AM
James. James. is offline
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bet/3bet that river.
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Old 05-23-2006, 01:11 PM
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i don't have a good feeling about the 3 bet pre-flop. assuming no 10 comes (likely), this can prove to be a very difficult hand to play post flop with overcards present (likely)...
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Old 05-23-2006, 01:21 PM
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reraise that river... if he slowrolled that QJ against you so be it... i think you see two pair/lower set here often enough to make the raise profitable
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Old 05-23-2006, 02:34 PM
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i don't have a good feeling about the 3 bet pre-flop. assuming no 10 comes (likely), this can prove to be a very difficult hand to play post flop with overcards present (likely)...

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I was wondering about this myself. My reasoning was this. I figure only one of the limpers is loose. The rest are in the 20-25 VPIP range and I was hoping to drop one or two of them with the reraise. IF I can get this pot to 3 way action with UTG+2 and PFR with a few dead money limps, then the 3-bet is the correct play. Although calling and CRing certain flops is also a completely viable option.
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Old 05-23-2006, 03:22 PM
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the preflop 3 bet is for value as you have the best hand here alot, and to give others between you and the button a chance to drop overcards to your pair; this is especially so since they may fear a cap behind them.
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Old 05-23-2006, 04:03 PM
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No one else check-raising this flop?
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Old 05-23-2006, 04:08 PM
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No one else check-raising this flop?

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since the most likely bettor will be the button and the c/r will shut out the field when you are soooooooooooo often best, no i would rather bet and collect bets and if button raises, 3 bet.
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Old 05-23-2006, 04:12 PM
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No one else check-raising this flop?

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since the most likely bettor will be the button and the c/r will shut out the field when you are soooooooooooo often best, no i would rather bet and collect bets and if button raises, 3 bet.

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You're also opening the door for all the donkeys with a Q or J to hang around hoping to get their straight. Against the typical 2/4 opponent, I really want most of them out of the hand after this flop.
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Old 05-23-2006, 04:29 PM
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No one else check-raising this flop?

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since the most likely bettor will be the button and the c/r will shut out the field when you are soooooooooooo often best, no i would rather bet and collect bets and if button raises, 3 bet.

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You're also opening the door for all the donkeys with a Q or J to hang around hoping to get their straight. Against the typical 2/4 opponent, I really want most of them out of the hand after this flop.

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even if you c/r there would be 20 sb in the pot right? you can peel with a gutter @ 10-1.
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Old 05-23-2006, 04:34 PM
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No one else check-raising this flop?

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since the most likely bettor will be the button and the c/r will shut out the field when you are soooooooooooo often best, no i would rather bet and collect bets and if button raises, 3 bet.

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You're also opening the door for all the donkeys with a Q or J to hang around hoping to get their straight. Against the typical 2/4 opponent, I really want most of them out of the hand after this flop.

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Checking this flop sucks. You have been the preflop aggressor, you have a hand with great equity in a huge pot, you cannot be totally sure someone will bet the flop for you, so you bet and hope to get the opportunity to 3-bet.
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