I wanna throw up... - Page 2

dustyn · #11 05-16-2006, 08:19 AM

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Villain is a 40/20 LAG who overplays hands postflop. Open raised AK from the CO, got c/r'ed on a low flop UI and 3bet, then bet the turn and checked through the riv.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP posts a blind of $10.
1 fold, MP (poster) checks, 1 fold, SB raises, Hero calls, MP folds.

Flop: (5 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, Hero 3-bets, SB calls.

River: (9.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, Hero...

I'm pretty sure there's plenty of value in a river bet when checked to vs. this guy. He's played it like a monster with the turn sexy which includes a bunch of sets and 2pair hands that would easily call one more. He's obviously not a maniac though, so how often am I chopping or winning vs. this checkraise?

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I think this is a great bet. You have to pay it off because some LAG is liable to raise KQ here on the river without thinking/without noticing the texture of the board. Or just because he's a LAG.

Solid_p · #12 05-16-2006, 10:29 AM

Getting c/r'ed sucks, but I definitely think there's value in a bet. Call the c/r.

Magikist · #13 05-16-2006, 12:23 PM

I don't think you have to be LAGtarded to c/r bluff this river. Opponent has a lot of fold equity, and the original poster doesn't need a straight to bet when checked to.

What if, instead of a straight, the original poster had KT? A fold is probably in order there, even though opponent could very well be making a move with JQ, JT, etc...

Anyway, the point is - it would be a bad to fold a straight here because it's not unreasonable to expect a thinking LAG to bluff.

baronzeus · #14 05-16-2006, 01:09 PM

id expect a LAG to bet this river with an A more often than he'd c/r it, so I call. also, i like the rest of your line.

JrJordan · #15 05-16-2006, 02:03 PM

Glad you all agree on the value bet. I made the crying call to be shown AdQd. His play with a hand like that makes it all the more likely he could also checkraise that river with a loser, so the call seems in order.

Andrew Karpinski · #16 05-16-2006, 02:10 PM

Villian played the hand pretty well, imo.

Thorv · #17 05-16-2006, 02:14 PM

very LAGesque

flawless_victory · #18 05-16-2006, 03:26 PM

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Villian played the hand pretty well, imo.

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nope, not really.

flawless_victory · #19 05-16-2006, 03:27 PM

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CHECK THROUGH THE RIVER NO WORSE HANDS ARE CALLING

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never ever check against this guy or 95% of other onkline players here, they call pocket 88 here.