Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > Tournament Poker > High Stakes MTT
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-30-2007, 03:42 PM
alifeLesson alifeLesson is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 15
Default Re: Two interesting hands from today\'s $2500 @ Bellagio

AT in hand 1
fold as played in hand 2
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-30-2007, 03:46 PM
ShannonShorr ShannonShorr is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 91
Default Re: Two interesting hands from today\'s $2500 @ Bellagio

Clayton,
As others have said about hand 2, I think it's criminal to get in for 48 BBs here with two tens with no antes even in the pot. I especially like flat calling pre here when you've already RRd the opponent twice in the tournament this early. Often times guys will call or shove out of spite, and it just makes for uncomfortable situations.

SS
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-01-2007, 04:55 AM
amak316 amak316 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 14
Default Re: Two interesting hands from today\'s $2500 @ Bellagio

lol i play so well. Idk what got into me that day but def was playing like my C- game, that being said i wasnt ever really stealing the blinds, i got KQs, 88, 77 etc soooo many times that level, im actually generally a TAG, but def was playing poorly that tournament lol.

hand 2 i wouldnt have made the goofy raise if i knew you were an online guy, i wanted to make it seem like QQ+, but in reality im never jamming worse than 10s there.

the hand i played vs you with 44 when my implied odds vs your stack were like 7.5-1 was so bad and set hunting was like the worst possible solution and 4bet jamming was slightly better still largely -ev.

gl tommorow in the 5k clayton
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-01-2007, 06:49 AM
ZeeJustin ZeeJustin is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,381
Default Re: Two interesting hands from today\'s $2500 @ Bellagio

Hand 1: I think A8 and T8 are very likely hands for him. The fact that the ace is a diamond is very relevant as it decreases his semi-bluff percent, although hands like JTdd are still likely. 88 is a huge possibility. A bluff or weak semi bluff seems fairly unlikely given the player described, but not impossible. Flopped sets are possible too, but less likely than the other hands I've mentioned.

That being said, I call with A8 and A3, but probably fold T8, but do not hate a call with that hand. Anything worse I fold.

Usually players that overbet bluff make it obvious that they are complete clowns that will go broke soon before they overbet bluff, and this player does not seem like one of them.


Hand 2: Hate the reraise pre. I don't hate the 4 bet as much, but the way you described his actions really makes it sounds like he has JJ which makes me inclined to say fold as played. If you think it's unlikely the player in question would think that long with JJ, then I'm fine with the 4 bet, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-01-2007, 06:55 AM
RockyElsom RockyElsom is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 107
Default Re: Two interesting hands from today\'s $2500 @ Bellagio

[ QUOTE ]

Usually players that overbet bluff make it obvious that they are complete clowns that will go broke soon before they overbet bluff, and this player does not seem like one of them.


[/ QUOTE ]

Great post.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-01-2007, 02:57 PM
Clayton Clayton is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: 1 time
Posts: 14,710
Default Re: Two interesting hands from today\'s $2500 @ Bellagio

thanks for the replies all, very helpful in my transitioning/adjusting to live play. quite frustrating that i'm finding myself in many new situations and i'm getting them wrong, but oh well.

results:
hand 1, I fold A5spades so it wasnt an interesting decision

hand 2, i shove and AMAK has ace king as I figured. however in the future in these spots I am probably coldcalling with my entire range and probably repopping with KK+ and air-type hands.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:59 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.