NL200, I has top 2 but you be overbet shoving?!?!?!??!?!?!?!

[MasterLJ]

Resultaments: <font color="white">I sort of forgot to mention that villain almost instapushed river, which made me think even more that it was a missed draw or some weird 2pair. I called, got shown 4s7s. GG </font>

[Kalledrengen]

Ouch that sucks. I would definitely have called aswell though

[BarryLyndon]

First of all, I love xSCWx's avatar more than almost anything else on this forum.

Secondly, Master, I know you are having a downswing, but this is an easy call. Very, very easy. You underreped your hand. You've given your opponent every opportunity to represent a bigger hand than his wiffed flush. Lower two pairs get all excited and make this play all the time. Made sets / straights comprise a smaller section of hands you beat.

Barry

[Perestroika]

A very similar hand happened to me today. Almost exactly the same. Villain insta potted river and I was just not good enough to fold this out. I sware in the future, against certain passive fish I will be folding this river shove against. The fact of the matter is, you have to truly try and grasp if your opponent cares about the money. If you can find out that he does, this is rarely a bluff and a fold is more prudent. Given your description of villain, and from my recent experiences, this is almost always a value zeebo.

[Scuba Chuck]

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Villain is loose OOP.

This is almost never a set imo.

I'd say his range involves 10% pure bluff, and 80% of 2 spaded hands like T5s, 42s, 47s, 56s, 6Ts, and 10% ???

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Is it not possible that a hand like K5 is in his range?

Anyhow, you didn't say if villain is any good, trappy, etc. In addition, does he shove-bluff? Does he tend to shove nuts, v strong hands only?

When villain leads flop, then check-calls turn, what's usually their hand?

Edit: I was going to add 45s to the list, but now I read results: [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Now in hindsight, if his hand range on the river is JUST 56s or 47s, now what's ur line?

[redCashion]

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First of all, I love xSCWx's avatar more than almost anything else on this forum.

Barry

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Sorry to derail, but I love that one too. Is that Conan and Lindsey Lohan?`

[xSCWx]

It is Conan and Emma Watson. Someone made it in BBV4L and nobody claimed it so I decided to steal it. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]