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Old 04-19-2007, 09:12 AM
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How can the media be exploiting anything - aren't they simply providing their consumers what they want in the market? I thought there was no such thing as an "incorrect outcome" in the market?

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Nice anti-AC hijack btw... This thread isn't at all about capitalism, but you just had to go and turn it into that, didn't you?
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Old 04-21-2007, 09:47 AM
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How can the media be exploiting anything - aren't they simply providing their consumers what they want in the market? I thought there was no such thing as an "incorrect outcome" in the market?

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Nice anti-AC hijack btw... This thread isn't at all about capitalism, but you just had to go and turn it into that, didn't you?

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The irony in this post is amazing.
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:46 PM
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I have to agree. I heard conservaitve radio talk show host Hugh Hewitt castigate NBC for making hay out of this. I doubted he was right.

But I just watched Brian Williams and he was saying they would show more of the tapes on "Today" tomorrow morning. A teaser for this pornography! How disgusting.

If I were in charge of NBC news, I would go on the Nightly News and say the killer wanted the tapes and pictures to be shown. We, at NBC, will never do such a thing. We have turned everything over to the FBI and local authorities for them to use in their investigative work, and we will make the materials available to the families of the victims. We will only release these materials to the public if the families are unanimous in their wish that we do so.
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:55 PM
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I have to agree. I heard conservaitve radio talk show host Hugh Hewitt castigate NBC for making hay out of this. I doubted he was right.

But I just watched Brian Williams and he was saying they would show more of the tapes on "Today" tomorrow morning. A teaser for this pornography! How disgusting.

If I were in charge of NBC news, I would go on the Nightly News and say the killer wanted the tapes and pictures to be shown. We, at NBC, will never do such a thing. We have turned everything over to the FBI and local authorities for them to use in their invetigative work, and we will make the materials available to the families of the victims. We will only release these materials to the public if the families are unanimous in their wish that we do so.

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Honestly, I don't really give a [censored] what the families think about this particular issue. I am an interested in seeing what was going through the killers head. If the families are upset by the videos, they don't need to watch them. Whether or not I see the videos has virtually zero effect on the families.

Any time somebody does something evil on a fairly large or public scale, they are going to get a lot more fame then they deserve. But so what? We shouldn't deprive ourselves of information just because we don't want to give the killer the satisfaction. The killer is dead anyway, and since I don't believe in any kind of afterlife, the killer is not benefitting from these videos being shown at all.

Criticizing NBC for profiting from these videos is like criticizing the History Channel for profiting from a documentary about Hitler.
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Old 04-19-2007, 01:35 AM
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What about the next nutcase who sees this guy getting exactly what he wanted?

I, too, am interested in what the killer was about, but I would rank the families' feelings above my curiosity.
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Old 04-19-2007, 01:54 AM
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What about the next nutcase who sees this guy getting exactly what he wanted?

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Exactly. Hence the second point in the OP about copycats.
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Old 04-19-2007, 01:54 AM
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What about the next nutcase who sees this guy getting exactly what he wanted?

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What about him?

He is irrational and will likely do whatever he wants regardless of whether NBC had aired this guy's video or not. Do you honestly think there is some guy out there who would be the type to go on a murderous rampage, but would refrain from doing so if NBC had not aired this guys' video?

Nowadays a nutjob does even need the media to spread his legacy. All he'd need to do is post the videos on an internet website and write the link on his arm.
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Old 04-19-2007, 02:02 AM
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"Do you honestly think there is some guy out there who would be the type to go on a murderous rampage, but would refrain from doing so if NBC had not aired this guys' video?"

Not sure. But there may be someone out there who would if NBC does air the video. TV news is still a bigger deal than internet websites.
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:07 AM
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What about the next nutcase who sees this guy getting exactly what he wanted?

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What about him?

He is irrational and will likely do whatever he wants regardless of whether NBC had aired this guy's video or not. Do you honestly think there is some guy out there who would be the type to go on a murderous rampage, but would refrain from doing so if NBC had not aired this guys' video?

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Yes, there are definitely people who would go on a murderous rampage if they knew it would make them famous that wouldn't otherwise. The guy who killed John Lennon specifically said that he did it to become famous.
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Old 04-18-2007, 11:39 PM
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They are giving him exactly what he wanted

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So, Do you believe in the after-life?

I mean, I really find your sentence strange (in a weird logical way)
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