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Old 11-09-2007, 04:24 PM
neurotiq neurotiq is offline
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I'd peel here. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:45 PM
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Given the advice above I guess I was much too aggressive (and getting worse street by street) with this very similar hand:

PokerStars 0.10/0.20 Hold'em (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds.

Turn: (3.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

River: (5.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 7.25 BB

UTG+1 was 82/27.3/0.56, no relevant notes but often plays ATC...of course that's about what I'm playing here.

I wanted to keep the initiative and I think my image is tight so if I keep firing many fish fold, especially on the river...but not necessarily an 82/27!

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This hand is different. The pot is smaller, you're in worse relative position since noone has acted and you don't have the chance of thinning the field. Check the flop and reevalute.

Edit: I think you should check the river as played, you let him bluff worse hands and check better hands behind.
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Old 11-09-2007, 05:25 PM
OziBattler OziBattler is offline
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Villain is 25/4/2AF

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ummm, so what are you guys putting villian on? do you still think a CRing is a good idea?

Maybe CR is okay but you damn well better have a plan for the rest of the hand or else youll probably get pwned.
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Old 11-09-2007, 05:34 PM
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I missed how low his PFR was, but I still think a c/r is best if his range is something like JJ+ AK/AQs. If we get it heads up and villain 3 bets the flop we will be getting ~8 to 1 on the turn with almost always 5 outs, so with implied odds a call seems clear there. We should be easily able to fold the river UI.
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