Is SNGPT ever wrong?

[Jshuttlesworth]

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ryan, so pushing here is -EV?

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it's really not that bad

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Lol I just estimated the optimal pushing % at 40 and it is pretty damn close to that. Pushing T3o against adjusted calling ranges is -1.1%

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ya i think b/c it's 5 handed BB is calling probably about 40% and SB close to that... which would make pushing T3o about -1% even if the other two medium stacks are playing very tight.

[ryanghall]

You guys are forgetting that it is also +EV to fold and let people eliminate themselves.

Ryan

[dipstikdave]

i don't think sngpt is making an error. it will give you the correct answer based on the ranges you provide. keep in mind that you are estimating ranges for 4 different opponents. that means you have to be very accurate with your reads. given only a 0.3 or 0.5 edge i'd look at my hand and say it's a fold.

[Jshuttlesworth]

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You guys are forgetting that it is also +EV to fold and let people eliminate themselves.

Ryan

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right right right right right right good call

[Pudge714]

Did you have BB calling 100%?

[Jshuttlesworth]

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Did you have BB calling 100%?

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me? nah... 40%

[Jshuttlesworth]

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Did you have BB calling 100%?

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me? nah... 40%

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not saying that it is 40%... saying it is at LEAST 40%

[snakekilla88]

Probally putting them on tight ranges and even then its still marginal. Just fold here, screw SNGPT!

[blackize]

SNGPT doesn't account for the EV of others playing pots together like Ryan said. It also doesn't account for overcalls which are actually somewhat likely in a spot like this.

[kinger]

thanks for the help guys