Heads up vs. Tuan Le - Page 2

king_of_drafts · #1 04-19-2007, 07:36 PM

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i would like to hear some arguments for folding but in my opinion it is really really bad in this spot with tuan's range here.

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These sorts of spots are all about how the action has been going recently. If you think folding is really bad, then fine, shove, but I think calling is horrible.

Don't get the feeling that you can just never fold top pair heads up against a crazy lag. That plays right into their overall strategy.

Arito · #2 04-20-2007, 10:08 AM

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Don't get the feeling that you can just never fold top pair heads up against a crazy lag. That plays right into their overall strategy.

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Regularly folding hands as strong as top pair does as well though...

Heir_Aparent · #3 04-19-2007, 07:44 PM

i agree that fold and shove are better than calling. its really kinda meehhh because this is the type of hand when i wish u were deeper into a HU match so u could a better grip depending on the flow, history, etc.

i guess i just dont know tuan well enough but a fold just seems best at this point. you say considering his range its bad to fold. this may be true overall but i dont think u can say that this early on in the much. I dont think your being exploited badly if u just lay this down at this point without a better read of where your at.

dlpnyc21 · #4 04-19-2007, 08:07 PM

don't know exactly how aggro he is, but I'd say a standard range for an aggro opponent hu here is draw/random two pair set, and a slowplayed overpair (very unlikely). He also has a straight bluff a small % of the time but I think he would bet bigger on the turn with a bluff unless he post-oaks. Given that weighted range, I think this is a turn fold.

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celticslegend · #5 04-19-2007, 09:03 PM

I think that a random two pair like 45 bets a lot bigger on turn for fear of being counterfeited or for fear of a spade coming and either giving him the losing hand or killing his action. I also think that top pair strong kicker bets bigger on the turn for similar reasons. As to whether this could be a stone-cold bluff I think the chances are probably better than you think but I agree it is not a huge part of his range.

king_of_drafts · #6 04-19-2007, 09:09 PM

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I think that a random two pair like 45 bets a lot bigger on turn for fear of being counterfeited or for fear of a spade coming and either giving him the losing hand or killing his action. I also think that top pair strong kicker bets bigger on the turn for similar reasons. As to whether this could be a stone-cold bluff I think the chances are probably better than you think but I agree it is not a huge part of his range.

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While this may be true (I don't really think it is), it is not an important enough point to hinge your decision on it.

celticslegend · #7 04-19-2007, 09:12 PM

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I think that a random two pair like 45 bets a lot bigger on turn for fear of being counterfeited or for fear of a spade coming and either giving him the losing hand or killing his action. I also think that top pair strong kicker bets bigger on the turn for similar reasons. As to whether this could be a stone-cold bluff I think the chances are probably better than you think but I agree it is not a huge part of his range.

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While this may be true (I don't really think it is), it is not an important enough point to hinge your decision on it.

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It may not be 100 percent true but for the most part I think it is a pretty good assesment of his play. While he is very aggressive he's really not that tricky or good for that matter.

Highlander. · #8 04-20-2007, 05:51 AM

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As to whether this could be a stone-cold bluff...

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This would be an extremally bad board to through a stone-cold bluff at since it contains both flush and straight draws so I don't think it is one.

fsuplayer · #9 04-20-2007, 08:35 AM

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As to whether this could be a stone-cold bluff...

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This would be an extremally bad board to through a stone-cold bluff at since it contains both flush and straight draws so I don't think it is one.

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yeah, cause people never bluff on scary boards aginst pfr's [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

dmoney · #10 04-20-2007, 04:06 PM

what is the likely hood it isnt him on his account?

BarryG did say ealier this week that people give arms and legs to play on ppls accounts like this cause they know they are getting paid off everytime.

p.s. this also seems like one of those times.