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Re: According to ICM: it\'s correct to fold AA on this bubble
What reasonable range could you put the other three on that AA is not crushing? For them to risk bubbling themselves, they have to have either big pocket pairs or AK. How is AA not at least 68% against that range, especially considering that they might be sharing outs?
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Re: According to ICM: it\'s correct to fold AA on this bubble
Did no-one read the OP? I don't have SnGPT on this computer to check the numbers but in this situation where stacks are even and we're a little shorted it sounds like AA is a fold.
I think the story would be very different if the stacks were uneven. Oh and we should point out that this situation will probably never happen. |
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Re: According to ICM: it\'s correct to fold AA on this bubble
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Oh and we should point out that this situation will probably never happen. [/ QUOTE ] PokerStars Game #13196535423: Tournament #66966948, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/11/12 - 12:53:19 (ET) Table '66966948 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button Seat 1: zbodom (3600 in chips) Seat 6: HERO (3160 in chips) Seat 8: LM BountyMan (3930 in chips) Seat 9: BozaPubb (2810 in chips) zbodom: posts the ante 25 HERO : posts the ante 25 LM BountyMan: posts the ante 25 BozaPubb: posts the ante 25 zbodom: posts small blind 200 LSP16: posts big blind 400 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to HERO [Ah Ad] LM BountyMan: raises 3505 to 3905 and is all-in BozaPubb: calls 2785 and is all-in zbodom: calls 3375 and is all-in HERO : ? noob question : whats the OP? |
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Re: According to ICM: it\'s correct to fold AA on this bubble
Jackstrap, OP is original post or original poster.
I would call in that example, because even if we don't win the hand, we have a very high likelyhood of still taking third because if we bust and Boza bust in the same hand, we will get third. That has to factor into the ICM here, unlike the OP. Also, if Boza's hand wins, we may still win a side pot vs. the other players and be in position to get 2nd place. I call in this hand. I only fold if we are the shortest stack when they all go in. |
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Re: According to ICM: it\'s correct to fold AA on this bubble
I think the "this will never happen" refer to the "equal stacks" part of the OP.
I can't crunch numbers but I'm sure the numbers are not near the same as OP. You are actually 3rd!!, If shorty wins maybe nobody is even knocked out. Lots of different things going on #1 being why is seat 1 (2nd stack) callng when folding seems really obvious (he is guarenteed to stay 2nd and could be ITM if big stack wins) |
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Re: According to ICM: it\'s correct to fold AA on this bubble
LSP16: posts big blind 400
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Re: According to ICM: it\'s correct to fold AA on this bubble
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If multiple people go out with the same amount of chips does it go by best hand or does the prize just split? I think either way you can call a bit wider, like JJ+, and be pretty profitable. [/ QUOTE ] on stars they split the prize money, on prima there is a weird bug I worked out, the higher place gets shipped to the person closest to the SB clockwise. |
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Re: According to ICM: it\'s correct to fold AA on this bubble
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[ QUOTE ] Oh and we should point out that this situation will probably never happen. [/ QUOTE ] PokerStars Game #13196535423: Tournament #66966948, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/11/12 - 12:53:19 (ET) Table '66966948 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button Seat 1: zbodom (3600 in chips) Seat 6: HERO (3160 in chips) Seat 8: LM BountyMan (3930 in chips) Seat 9: BozaPubb (2810 in chips) zbodom: posts the ante 25 HERO : posts the ante 25 LM BountyMan: posts the ante 25 BozaPubb: posts the ante 25 zbodom: posts small blind 200 LSP16: posts big blind 400 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to HERO [Ah Ad] LM BountyMan: raises 3505 to 3905 and is all-in BozaPubb: calls 2785 and is all-in zbodom: calls 3375 and is all-in HERO : ? noob question : whats the OP? [/ QUOTE ] this is a call, as pozabob has less chips than hero. i m pretty sure it s a fold if all have around the same with hero a little less. |
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