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11-14-2007, 12:44 PM
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Re: 20/40 I\'m a Payoff Machine
this is standard. Folding makes baby jesus cry.
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11-14-2007, 12:56 PM
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Re: 20/40 I\'m a Payoff Machine
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this is standard. Folding makes baby jesus cry. [/ QUOTE ] Um, raise/fold? Why not raise the turn? same price, and he might fold a paired Queen? If he reraises, you know you are dead. I don't really like call turn, call river here.
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11-14-2007, 01:05 PM
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Re: 20/40 I\'m a Payoff Machine
Raise turn is awful.
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11-14-2007, 02:53 PM
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Re: 20/40 I\'m a Payoff Machine
I agree, raising the turn is awful...but you might get him off of some hands?
My main point is, call turn/call river is awful...what are you beating besides a bluff? If you raise, you pay the same price as call/call (2bb) and you push him off of his pure bluffs, which in some cases, could draw out and beat you. Why call/call? I think you make a decision, you either fold (best option) or raise and beat the bluffs outright. If he is already ahead....you are call/calling to do? what? pay him off?
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11-14-2007, 01:19 PM
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Re: 20/40 I\'m a Payoff Machine
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[ QUOTE ] this is standard. Folding makes baby jesus cry. [/ QUOTE ] Um, raise/fold? Why not raise the turn? same price, and he might fold a paired Queen? If he reraises, you know you are dead. I don't really like call turn, call river here. [/ QUOTE ] raising the turn is pretty pointless. yea, he might fold a hand like KhQh. except he would never have that hand in the first place.
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11-15-2007, 05:58 AM
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Re: 20/40 I\'m a Payoff Machine
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[ QUOTE ] this is standard. Folding makes baby jesus cry. [/ QUOTE ] Um, raise/fold? Why not raise the turn? same price, and he might fold a paired Queen? If he reraises, you know you are dead. I don't really like call turn, call river here. [/ QUOTE ] What? That doesn't make any sense at all. The only hand he's folding is a Q. Besides that, we'd usually just be charging ourselves to draw if we did that.
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11-14-2007, 01:04 PM
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Re: 20/40 I\'m a Payoff Machine
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this is standard. Folding makes baby jesus cry. [/ QUOTE ] Standard for Commerce, or for everywhere, in your opinion? Because it sure isn't in mine.
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#8
11-14-2007, 02:26 PM
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Re: 20/40 I\'m a Payoff Machine
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[ QUOTE ] this is standard. Folding makes baby jesus cry. [/ QUOTE ] Standard for Commerce, or for everywhere, in your opinion? Because it sure isn't in mine. [/ QUOTE ] I pay off here with TT and JJ as well, just because that is in my style. I know I suck. I also paid off with J high a few weeks ago, and boy was I wrong. I like to make my laydowns in a heads up pot on the turn, since that saves me two bets. If I get to the river, I am a calling station (Yet you still bluffed me in that one kill pot! which makes it even more amazing)
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11-14-2007, 01:19 PM
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Re: 20/40 I\'m a Payoff Machine
Your line is fine until the river where you can fold against most players.
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