hand vs. CDC

[bakku]

as far as the hand in question, i'd just call on the river. though cdc is capable of 3-bet bluffing the river i don't think he is going to actually do it very often here. most of the time he's going to either fold to your raise or just call in which case you lose.

[gaming_mouse]

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as far as the hand in question, i'd just call on the river. though cdc is capable of 3-bet bluffing the river i don't think he is going to actually do it very often here. most of the time he's going to either fold to your raise or just call in which case you lose.

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[stinkypete]

this reminds me of the time i called a 4-bet from ggbman on the river with ace high. the stakes were 5 times higher though. it was really dumb. your play isn't nearly as dumb, but i think it's still dumb.

[ggbman]

I thought thay call was awesome! but seriously, u raised ace high to fold a better hand and induce a river bluff 3 bet at the same timr agaist an above average player who will close the action thats prolly not too good an idea...

[private joker]

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this reminds me of the time i called a 4-bet from ggbman on the river with ace high. the stakes were 5 times higher though. it was really dumb. your play isn't nearly as dumb, but i think it's still dumb.

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OK, I guess I'll concede that I made a bad play here, after you and The Dude and bakku and DD and other posters (who are all better than I am) disapprove of it. After all, I don't play stakes 5 times higher than this. And maybe this is why.

Results: I did manage to get "lucky" here and Chris proudly announced queen high when I called (he had QJs) and scooped a nice pot, but now I'll just call in this situation.

[stinkypete]

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Results: I did manage to get "lucky" here and Chris proudly announced queen high when I called (he had QJs) and scooped a nice pot, but now I'll just call in this situation.

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for the sake of being results oriented, there might be situations where you just know he doesn't have [censored] (maybe its the look on his face or the way he throws his chips in combined with the fact that he never checks that turn with a big hand) where raising could be correct. the utg donkey might be dumb and have a stupid pocket pair or something wanting to get to showdown cheap so it doesn't hurt to have him fold.

[Garland]

There's a phrase for this: Fancy Play Syndrome (FPS)

Happens quite often when:

(a) Playing friends
(b) Facing famous LAGGY 2+2 players.

3-bet pre-flop. As played call the river.

I prefer the KISS (keep it simple, stupid) style.

Garland

[cgrohman]

I think the river raise was to get the idiot to fold something, no?

[Entity]

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I think the river raise was to get the idiot to fold something, no?

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The problem is that the idiot isn't going to have anything often enough for it to be worth the parlay.

[SNOWBALL]

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I think the river raise was to get the idiot to fold something, no?

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The problem is that the idiot isn't going to have anything often enough for it to be worth the parlay.

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We're trying to fold out a better ace. Oh wait...