UZR Data Released for 2003-2007 (baseball defense stats)

[Pudge714]

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LOL Sizemore is top 5 and only been in the league since 04 and even then only 42 games. Sick sick super sick. The player you start a franchise right now.

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Agreed. Anytime his name is mentioned, I love thinking about his contract:

Grady Sizemore of
6 years/$23.45M (2006-11), plus $8.5M 2012 club option

So fkin sick.

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I remember last year having an argument with my friends (Jays fans) that Sizemore>>>>>>>>> Wells. Nobody believed me. How much variance is there in the 2007 results? Because Adam Lind has looked pretty awkward in LF getting a lot of bad reads on balls, etc.

[pudley4]

There's a problem with some of the totals listed. Look at Griffey - he shows up twice in the totals list, under two different names. If you look at the individual season totals, he's also listed under two names (Ken Griffey Jr for 2003-2005 and Ken Griffey for 2006-2007). Add those seasons together and you get -119 total runs, worse than Manny. He's also averaged -44 runs/150 games or worse every single season. Manny's worst was -42 runs/150 games. Bonds is only -16 total runs (-6/150 games)

[Kos13]

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There's a problem with some of the totals listed. Look at Griffey - he shows up twice in the totals list, under two different names. If you look at the individual season totals, he's also listed under two names (Ken Griffey Jr for 2003-2005 and Ken Griffey for 2006-2007). Add those seasons together and you get -119 total runs, worse than Manny. He's also averaged -44 runs/150 games or worse every single season. Manny's worst was -42 runs/150 games. Bonds is only -16 total runs (-6/150 games)

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It has a couple errors. I think I saw Coco Crisp on their twice, too (once as Covelli).

EDIT: I'm too lazy to look, but I just realized Coco and Griffey have both changed positions between 2003 and 2007. I'm guessing each listing is for a specific position.

[Senor Choppy]

There is an entry for each position played by a player. So with Griffey, you'll see Griffey at 8 and at 9 and his value at each spot. The different names was probably just a typo.

[samjjones]

Watching him everyday, Beltran is overrated.

[sublime]

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Watching him everyday, Beltran is overrated.

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hes overrated by a massive sample size of an unbiased fielding metric?

i am serious when i ask, how is that even possible?

[sublime]

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3) Ty Wigginton, 3B -54

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funny, as i was watching the rays/sox games i was like "how can this fatass play 2B?" i can only imagine how bad his UZR there is.

[kyleb]

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Watching him everyday, Beltran is overrated.

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The only way Beltran is overrated is if someone thinks he is better than Bonds circa 2004. And even then they aren't exactly too wrong.

[kyleb]

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3) Ty Wigginton, 3B -54

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funny, as i was watching the rays/sox games i was like "how can this fatass play 2B?" i can only imagine how bad his UZR there is.

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I dunno, it's probably better - the defensive spectrum is SS->3B->2B->1B for the infield. More time to make a play, shorter throws, etc.

[sublime]

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3) Ty Wigginton, 3B -54

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funny, as i was watching the rays/sox games i was like "how can this fatass play 2B?" i can only imagine how bad his UZR there is.

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I dunno, it's probably better - the defensive spectrum is SS->3B->2B->1B for the infield. More time to make a play, shorter throws, etc.

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i think you have it mixed up

1B/LF/RF/3B/CF/2B/SS/C

is how i remember

anyways, im sure certain players dont fall neatly into the spectrum. regardless, having him in your infield is scary.