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#11
01-31-2007, 10:36 AM
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Re: You guys ever do this?
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Going to showdown here is badddd. It's between doing this and check/calling here and check/folding the river or sometimes just check/folding here. c/c all 3 streets can't be right against a supposed reasonable player. [/ QUOTE ] I agree. Passively getting to showdown here is the same -EV play with PP's where the only river bets being paid off are usually by you when you're behind. I think OP's play is far from standard but the way to go when making a move. Someone said KK-QQ is never folding there. A line of 3 betting pf, ch/c'ing an A high flop and c/r'ing the capper on the turn doesn't have FE? How'd you like to be holding QQ there? I think even a turn donk would make them wonder if they're beat. That said, if they call it they're calling the river so betting again is pointless. 
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#12
01-31-2007, 11:11 AM
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Re: You guys ever do this?
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I tend to take the passive get to showdown route here, I have tried the turn c/r with poor results but sometimes i might do this. [/ QUOTE ]
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#13
01-31-2007, 02:17 PM
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Re: You guys ever do this?
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As long as this is absolutely the last bet you put into the pot, its ok sometimes. -DeathDonkey [/ QUOTE ]
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#14
01-31-2007, 02:29 PM
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Re: You guys ever do this?
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Going to showdown here is badddd. [/ QUOTE ] I didnt say it was good - only that I have had poor results with Dave's line and slightly better results with a more passive line against opponents with similar stats. I still try it when I feel the time is right, small sample size could be the culprit. TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
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#15
01-31-2007, 07:16 PM
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Re: You guys ever do this?
"A line of 3 betting pf, ch/c'ing an A high flop and c/r'ing the capper on the turn doesn't have FE? How'd you like to be holding QQ there? I think even a turn donk would make them wonder if they're beat."
My point was that if they decided to bet the turn with QQ-KK, it is usually with the intention of calling a raise. Usually they just check and get to showdown cheap. A turn donk is ok every once in a while, but will get raised by a worse hand a little too often I think.
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#16
01-31-2007, 10:38 PM
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Re: You guys ever do this?
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My point was that if they decided to bet the turn with QQ-KK, it is usually with the intention of calling a raise. Usually they just check and get to showdown cheap. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think the turn bet is committed to the river as often as you do and believe bet/fold is frequently in play. Going back to the basic idea though, making the play is looking for a fold. You only make it if your read says it has a chance.
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