$10 27 player -- misplayed monster draw?

[ZenMusician]

I'm never checking this flop.

-ZEN

[ssnyc]

bet and 3 bet all in...very standard

[bookish]

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) I don't think our 3-bet will give us much FE at all, if he's got A8 or something he's gonna feel committed. Plus a higher flush draw is then coming along too.



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Why do you care if A8 calls your shove? With our stack depth; a c/r puts us in a worse spot, if our raise is just called. Then we lose 1/3 of our equity on a bricked turn and we are OOP with a tough decision. Check/check, and we could lose our action on a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]turn
We lead with 300
Villain riases ~1000
We shove ~4500. We have good FE, and we have the potential to trap more dead money. Even if we are only called by a set or a straight we still have ~40% equity when called.
If this was a raised pot PrF; I would feel different.

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I take your point about A8 coming along.

I don't often check-raise here, but the read we have is that villain is highly likely to bet out here, and we have to take advantage of that. We can't rely on him raising our small bet.

Sure if we know he's going to attack our small bet then we can do that as we don't mind all the chips going in, but OP said he thought he'd lead any two and under those circumstances I think we should C/R here. Otherwise you are giving chips up if he folds to your bet.