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Old 10-15-2007, 10:00 AM
Dhani Dhani is offline
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102 sessions
297.7 hours
Isn't that an average of 3 hours per session? Any reason for this?
1793 net profit
1.00 bb/hour
141 in expenses (valet, non-dealer tips, food)

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Old 10-15-2007, 12:33 PM
gobbledygeek gobbledygeek is offline
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I find it noteworthy that no one is posting their own stats. I have 800 hrs. in low limit games ranging from 2/4-8/16 + some 3/6 full kill O/8, etc. I'm earning the princely sum of $1.65/hr. This figure is net of all rakes and tips.

I think it is easy to:

1) Overrate your skill set (rookie!),

2) Underrate the impact of variance, both good and bad.


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QFT.

I've just passed the 850 hour mark of B&M 2/4 and I'm killing the game to the tune of $1.80/hour (i.e. 0.45 BB/hour). I'm exactly 50/50 in sessions won vs sessions lost.

IMHO, I think people greatly overestimate the advantage they have over poor players at the table. For any particular play, an opponent only has one of three options (fold, check/call or raise) and in a lot of instances even bad players can make the correct decision the majority of the time. A blind monkey could probably make the correct decision a fair percentage of the time, and the time he doesn't he could get lucky a fair percentage of that time. Overall these accumulations of small mistakes will cause them to be long term losers (enabling you to become a long term winner) but it ain't the gravy train people make it out to be.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:11 AM
Yossarian147 Yossarian147 is offline
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Default Re: Reasonable hourly rate?

Yeah, I started out playing longer sessions but now I'll sit for less than an hour when waiting for 4/8, 6/12, etc. My last 24 "sessions" are less than an hour, many are like .1 or .2 hrs
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:23 PM
jesse8888 jesse8888 is offline
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My last 115 hours of 6/12 play I am making $9.80 per hour. Before that I didn't keep hourly statistics because I wasn't really very serious about it.

At 3/6 I'm confident I would be about a break even player, as the rake is exactly the same in both games. $5 a hand (3 in drop, 1 in tip, 1 in jackpot collection) is just vicious in 3/6.
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Old 10-17-2007, 08:22 AM
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Three hour sessions, takes me that long to get to my card room and back.
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:45 PM
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You guys are winning my money since I lose $6/hr playing 3/6. This is over 4 years of trying to beat the game. It was -$10 for the first two years so I am improving. LOL

I can not beat the $5 drop per hand won.
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:46 PM
jesse8888 jesse8888 is offline
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You guys are winning my money since I lose $6/hr playing 3/6. This is over 4 years of trying to beat the game. It was -$10 for the first two years so I am improving. LOL

I can not beat the $5 drop per hand won.

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You should move up to 6/12. I'm dead serious; you'll probably break even.
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Old 10-17-2007, 01:53 PM
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Over a lot of hours I'm beating 3/6 for less than .5 bets per hour and 20/40 for twice as much.
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Old 10-17-2007, 03:08 PM
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I can not beat the $5 drop per hand won.

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to put things in perspective, rake at 10/20 at the borg is $5 per 1/2 hr, or 1 SB /hr.

i think you're gettin raped and should move up
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Old 10-17-2007, 04:38 PM
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Sorry - I'm an online player so B&M is a different story!

In the OLD days when tables were bad (I'm talking 45% flops) I was a 2BB/hour player. This is over a million hands.

Heck - Crypto used to have 3/6 50% games all the time and even last year I could play 5/10 60% flops for a hour at some Euro sites.

Once things got tighter and PARTICULARLY since they closed down Euro sites for Americans I find it hard to get over 1.5BB/hour.

So if you are talking bad players you could do 2BB/hour - HOWEVER(2) - it depends how many hands you are playing - can I assume you are talking LIVE games??
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