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Old 12-19-2006, 12:55 AM
mixmastermattyk mixmastermattyk is offline
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Default Re: $600 PLO I\'m not sure of my play on every street.

Whose gimmick account are you, Small Stakes? Out yourself.
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Old 12-19-2006, 01:24 AM
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Default Re: $600 PLO I\'m not sure of my play on every street.

op, this is fine imo.
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Old 12-19-2006, 01:56 AM
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Default Re: $600 PLO I\'m not sure of my play on every street.

i limp preflop in this spot almost always. turn i usually c/c or c/f.
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Old 12-19-2006, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: $600 PLO I\'m not sure of my play on every street.

This is the way I would play that hand 6-handed. It seems ok at full ring, too, maybe more marginal.

I like your bet-sizing, by the way. On the flop you let a drawing hand call you and make it difficult with a made hand not to raise because of the flush draw.

On the turn, ok also. If MP2's stack was bigger, I would have prefered a 200 bet on turn, in order to be able to launch a big river bluff, but with only 400 left you are more or less forced to bet max.

Good one, anyway. I hope you won [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 12-19-2006, 05:31 AM
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Default Re: $600 PLO I\'m not sure of my play on every street.

Well I'll quickly give my thought process
PF: I'll limp in here some of the time but I'd been playing pretty aggro and a lot of people were just folding pf and letting me steal the blinds so I figured I'd open.
Flop: I raise pf the reason why I bet the flop small was because I figured if got a few callers I could dog the hand because obviously against more than one opponent my hand isn't good. I'm not sure about my process there but I'll let people comment.
Turn: Now I'm HU most villains raise the flop with a set 4 ways, although a set definetely is still in his range, even then I have 10 outs on the river. But a lot of the time here is hand is the NFD or some weird two pair and by potting I have pretty good fe and if called I'm not in bad shape.
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Old 12-19-2006, 12:30 PM
MadScientist MadScientist is offline
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Default Re: $600 PLO I\'m not sure of my play on every street.

Eagles, I know my previous reply was terse and I do like the hands you post and your thoughts, but...
The point of my post is: from a Fund Theorem of Poker point of view, you want your opps to make mistakes. Here, they are not making a mistake to call you with most hands they could hold. The nut flush draw is getting about right odds if you include his overcard...
So you are basically praying for a fold (which would be a mistake for a lot of hands he could hold), but how often will you really get it?
Do you really think it makes up for the times he is slow playing a set or makes top two?
I don't know the answers, that is why I'm asking you, but the whole line seems suspect.
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Old 12-19-2006, 06:30 PM
Bartholow Bartholow is offline
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Default Re: $600 PLO I\'m not sure of my play on every street.

In my experience you DO get a fold around on the flop often with this sort of play, so while I see what you're saying, I'm not sure I agree.
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Old 12-19-2006, 07:10 PM
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Default Re: $600 PLO I\'m not sure of my play on every street.

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Here, they are not making a mistake to call you with most hands they could hold. The nut flush draw is getting about right odds if you include his overcard

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Your logic is really bad here, vilain calling with the NFD is a huge mistake here.
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Old 12-20-2006, 01:37 PM
MadScientist MadScientist is offline
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Default Re: $600 PLO I\'m not sure of my play on every street.

Say he had the nut flush draw and a pair on the board...
He would have 3 overs, 7 flush outs (which are killer), and like 9 outs to two pair, so easily enough to call.
With just NFD, he has ten outs, so his call given implied odds on flush draw (stacking you) is just fine.
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Old 12-20-2006, 02:12 PM
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Default Re: $600 PLO I\'m not sure of my play on every street.

lol oh my god post more madscientist
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