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Old 07-22-2007, 04:20 PM
MrHorace MrHorace is offline
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Default Re: 100NL Damn mid-pairs

I've been thinking a lot lately of check-raising vs. cbetting. What are the thoughts on this in general and wrt this hand? In this hand, if the villain doesn't bet, we get a free card for our gutshot to boot.
I myself have a hard time disciplining myself to just check here, but I think in many ways ck-raising comes off more powerful than a cbet.
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: 100NL Damn mid-pairs

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Defo bet, like $33

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Are you betting bigger on the turn?

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nope

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Are you pitching this if villain raises our turn bet?

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yep
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: 100NL Damn mid-pairs

Bet/fold river for $30.
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: 100NL Damn mid-pairs

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Defo bet, like $33

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Are you betting bigger on the turn?

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nope

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Are you pitching this if villain raises our turn bet?

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yep

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Just checking that we are on the same page.
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:54 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: 100NL Damn mid-pairs

Blocking here looks pretty hot given villain and action. Something I rarely do though.
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:55 PM
Mike MacIntosh Mike MacIntosh is offline
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Default Re: 100NL Damn mid-pairs

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I've been thinking a lot lately of check-raising vs. cbetting. What are the thoughts on this in general and wrt this hand? In this hand, if the villain doesn't bet, we get a free card for our gutshot to boot.
I myself have a hard time disciplining myself to just check here, but I think in many ways ck-raising comes off more powerful than a cbet.

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IMO, this is FPS. Betting is a no brainer because, we have an OP, villain is loose, will call with worse, and we need to protect our hand. Really no reason to do anything else but c-bet this flop.
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:56 PM
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Blocking here looks pretty hot given villain and action. Something I rarely do though.

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What is your usual line here on the turn and river?

How much are you betting the river for?
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:58 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Usually checking the river and reading the guys soul if he bets.
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Old 07-22-2007, 05:03 PM
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Usually checking the river and reading the guys soul if he bets.

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LOL, read his soul for me then. You check the river, and he

A.) Pushes
B.) Bets $64
C.) Bets $44
D.) Bets $32

What bets do you call?
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Old 07-22-2007, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: 100NL Damn mid-pairs

this looks like a pretty clear bet fold to me. check call seems about the worst option. he just doenst valuebet much that we beat and isnt gonna b bluffin nearly enough to make a call profitable. he will call with many worse hands tho. bet folding hands like this is by far the best option against loose passive fish
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