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11-17-2007, 08:06 PM
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Re: I met a girl last night, she is a high school senior
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Her parents have done her a disservice by not insisting she work to her capabilities. [/ QUOTE ] Her parents are letting her lead her own life. If she wanted to take AP courses, and think for herself, and learn more than one side, she could have. The only thing the parents should have done was say, "I think you'd do great in this class", nothing more. 
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11-17-2007, 09:50 PM
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Re: I met a girl last night, she is a high school senior
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[ QUOTE ] Her parents have done her a disservice by not insisting she work to her capabilities. [/ QUOTE ] Her parents are letting her lead her own life. If she wanted to take AP courses, and think for herself, and learn more than one side, she could have. The only thing the parents should have done was say, "I think you'd do great in this class", nothing more. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know. I don't have kids, but don't they tend to not always have the best judgement, often misplace priorities and look to their parents to help prepare them well for life?
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11-17-2007, 10:47 PM
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Re: I met a girl last night, she is a high school senior
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Her parents have done her a disservice by not insisting she work to her capabilities. [/ QUOTE ] Her parents are letting her lead her own life. If she wanted to take AP courses, and think for herself, and learn more than one side, she could have. The only thing the parents should have done was say, "I think you'd do great in this class", nothing more. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know. I don't have kids, but don't they tend to not always have the best judgement, often misplace priorities and look to their parents to help prepare them well for life? [/ QUOTE ] Insisting was the wrong word. I should have used encouraged. I personally would have encouraged or bribed.... Parents who think a 14 year old should be leading their own life are mistaken. They are just beginning to think for themselves. It is a tricky age where you are beyond the " Because I said so!" age and into a more subtle form of guidance where you leave them thinking they actually came to the right conclusion on their own. Very tricky...
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11-17-2007, 11:06 PM
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Re: I met a girl last night, she is a high school senior
My high school is so awesome that we had 2 valedictorians. There were only 50 graduation seniors.
Valedictorians tend to be pretty boring people imo.
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11-18-2007, 05:28 AM
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Re: I met a girl last night, she is a high school senior
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My high school is so awesome that we had 2 valedictorians. There were only 50 graduation seniors. Valedictorians tend to be pretty boring people imo. [/ QUOTE ] Definition of small sample size - even though yours is weirdly doubled! WTF the definition of accomplishment seems to be buried in touchy-feely wish wash. At least you haven't argued -- so far! -- that being valedictorian should depend on how much you are wuvved. Or good looking, or whatever.
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11-17-2007, 11:27 PM
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Re: I met a girl last night, she is a high school senior
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Her parents have done her a disservice by not insisting she work to her capabilities. [/ QUOTE ] Her parents are letting her lead her own life. If she wanted to take AP courses, and think for herself, and learn more than one side, she could have. The only thing the parents should have done was say, "I think you'd do great in this class", nothing more. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know. I don't have kids, but don't they tend to not always have the best judgement, often misplace priorities and look to their parents to help prepare them well for life? [/ QUOTE ] Insisting was the wrong word. I should have used encouraged. I personally would have encouraged or bribed.... Parents who think a 14 year old should be leading their own life are mistaken. They are just beginning to think for themselves. It is a tricky age where you are beyond the " Because I said so!" age and into a more subtle form of guidance where you leave them thinking they actually came to the right conclusion on their own. Very tricky... [/ QUOTE ] Parents forcing high schoolers to do stuff really pisses me off. I don't know, my parents didn't force me to do anything, I chose AP(ish, it's actually IB) for myself. They never talked to me about drugs, I don't do drugs. Etc etc etc I find it amazing, the amount of students in my college classes that still can't think for themselves.
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11-18-2007, 05:29 AM
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Re: I met a girl last night, she is a high school senior
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Her parents have done her a disservice by not insisting she work to her capabilities. [/ QUOTE ] Her parents are letting her lead her own life. If she wanted to take AP courses, and think for herself, and learn more than one side, she could have. The only thing the parents should have done was say, "I think you'd do great in this class", nothing more. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know. I don't have kids, but don't they tend to not always have the best judgement, often misplace priorities and look to their parents to help prepare them well for life? [/ QUOTE ] Insisting was the wrong word. I should have used encouraged. I personally would have encouraged or bribed.... Parents who think a 14 year old should be leading their own life are mistaken. They are just beginning to think for themselves. It is a tricky age where you are beyond the " Because I said so!" age and into a more subtle form of guidance where you leave them thinking they actually came to the right conclusion on their own. Very tricky... [/ QUOTE ] Parents forcing high schoolers to do stuff really pisses me off. I don't know, my parents didn't force me to do anything, I chose AP(ish, it's actually IB) for myself. They never talked to me about drugs, I don't do drugs. Etc etc etc I find it amazing, the amount of students in my college classes that still can't think for themselves. [/ QUOTE ] Even among the wisest, everything is still case by case.
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11-17-2007, 11:26 PM
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Re: I met a girl last night, she is a high school senior
we had three valedictorians in a HS class of almost 600 kids, I think - (Flathead High School was BIG) - and I remember being in a couple AP classes where these conversations always occurred.
By and large, colleges used to consider AP work more favorably then just an A in joe blow English 101, esp. if you get a high enough score to get credit. It's a more meaningful and objective symbol of knowledge. (FYI, I got screwed in AP history - my essay question was about W.E.B. Dubois, and in MT no one had any idea who he was - LOL) But I remember having these discussions in class - kids who would take a hit cause they were in Calculus instead of some other class, but our Valedictorians were all from the upper crust of nerddom - guess HS has changed a bit the last few years though - I'm sure C isn't an average grade anymore. RB
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11-17-2007, 11:31 PM
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Re: I met a girl last night, she is a high school senior
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Needless to say the next five students in the class have taken all the AP classes they could. AND ARE A BIT MIFFED that she has taken the easy path to the goal. So she has few friends in school and states she doesn't really care. One might say she lacks warmth. [/ QUOTE ] If one of the other five students became valdictorian should he/she feel sorry for the ones that did not? I dont know how the american school system work, but wount a higher gpa help her get into better schools, she may have been able to do well in the AP courses but this would lower her gpa. She realised that and did not take any AP couses this does not seem shortsighted to me. Taking the hardest course not thinking about the consequence would be the shortsighted think to do imo
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