25/50NL hand

[MezmerizePLZ]

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flop looks good, turn i would fold. I would be pretty surprised if he doesn't have you dead/ drawing to 2 or 4 outs.

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So do we do the same with TT?

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TT is alot diff 'cause if he has a flush/straight we have wayyyyyyyyyy more outs. I'd fold turn in hand given, TT would be sick tough spot but i might lay it also depending on villain

[jcmoussa]

i like a fold on the flop...im serious.

[mrTEA]

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i like a fold on the flop...im serious.

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[creedofhubris]

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flop looks good, turn i would fold. I would be pretty surprised if he doesn't have you dead/ drawing to 2 or 4 outs.

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So do we do the same with TT?

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TT is alot diff 'cause if he has a flush/straight we have wayyyyyyyyyy more outs.

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and fewer outs for him if we're ahead

[Ship Ship McGipp]

sometimes fold the flop, almost always fold the turn

[freeucm]

So u push the turn he shows AQs and u win the hand?

[tsarast]

Results: I folded the turn I don't know what the villain had. When he bet 3k on the turn, he's obviously commiting himself to the pot, and I decided it wasn't a good spot anymore. Thinking about it after the hand, I decided his range was: Any AT-AKo with Ad, AA with Ad (I don't think he bets AK or AA without the diamond at this point), any two random diamonds for a flush, any set, any two pair, straight, or JJ with Jd.
Against that range I'm only beating AT, AQ, AK with d, JJ with Jd and QT. I'm losing to set, straight, flush, KQ... and I think there are many more hands in the second group.

As far as discussion about the cold-calling villain in the BB. He was stuck a lot at that point, and I thought his call was weak (i think he 4bets with AK, AA-JJ, and probably TT) at that point, given the action... so I wasn't very scared about it, and it really only encouraged a call from me given the action.

(JCMoussa...) I really wanted to fold the flop for whatever reason, it felt bad to me, but I called and folded a blank turn. bye bye 1450$!

Side note to JC: I had you confused with some guy "JCM...." (with the dots being random numbers) who i played with at commerce one time. And he wasnt very good. Sorry about that. I think you are an excellent player.

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not to mention, against that range... the hands that are ahead of me are crushing me to 4 outs, and the hands I beat all have 12+ outs other then QT, which may or may not bet again anyways.

[TheWorstPlayer]

i think the other dude is JMC... not JCM...

[ActionJeff]

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i like a fold on the flop...im serious.

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