KQs utg

[Xylocain]

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i cap river
cap flop
and raise turn to protect our hand from 5 outs draws (set+2 pair)and to charge all FD and str8 draw

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you raise for value yo. nobodys folding

[JJack]

ye FD and str8 wont fold but hand like AT make uncorrect call for example

[maverickai]

grunching:

The hand sample size is measly, but at least I get an idea of how loose preflop and passive postflop they are.

Turn: I would call, considering the aggression that SB had showed on the flop. Maybe 2pair, or a set for him. The K on the turn would not improve my hand against his range.

With the wakeup river raise that MP2 is taking, it seems like he has hit a flush too. possibly AJspades? I would call on the river after MP2 has raised. I wont' cap the river.

[maverickai]

Seems like everyone advocates capping on river! Think I'm playing too passively cos of badbeats recently. Here's a hand... bad beat? This drove me on tilt.

Hero is already shortstacked, ~ 6-7BB.
Hero raises UTG with AA.
All folds to SB who calls. Only 2 players.

Flops comes J 2 x rainbow.

The flop was capped.

Hero was all in on the turn.


Correct Play?

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<font color="white">SB turns over a sickening J2 sooooted. wtf </font>

[sean c]

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don't like the 3-bet on flop OOP though.

Buzz

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He has 16/17 outs twice against two short bus riders whats not to like about the flop 3-bet?

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yeah our equity is burning good, except I'd rather still not shut the other guy out.

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The other guy has already called one bet. The check/raiser is at least coing to call a 3-bet wich gets the same amount if you go for a single overcall. SB might cap and MP might hang around. This is a flop to jam. The only reason to wait would be if you would gain more by not raising until you hit one of your draws. I don't see that as the case here.

[marchron]

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Seems like everyone advocates capping on river! Think I'm playing too passively cos of badbeats recently. Here's a hand... bad beat? This drove me on tilt.

Hero is already shortstacked, ~ 6-7BB.
Hero raises UTG with AA.
All folds to SB who calls. Only 2 players.

Flops comes J 2 x rainbow.

The flop was capped.

Hero was all in on the turn.


Correct Play?

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Depending on the action and any reads I may have on SB, I may just be calling him if, say, he's super-passive and he check/raises me. But with a short stack, you're better off getting it all-in. Yes, that was a bad beat.

[lexudin]

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I need to comment on this because not all stats are created equal. Aggression factors are directly affected by how many hands people play. High VPIPers have low Aggression factors, not because they arent betting alot but because they are calling with alot more hands than you or i. In this case this guy is playing 90% of his hands so he is going to be calling alot with weak/junk hands in a desperate bid to hit a hand....all these calls will dilute his aggression factor. 0.44 would be ultrapassive for a tight player but it really isnt that passive for someone who plays any two.

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tnx aussie, this helps

[COF]

grunching:

preflop: raise for value
flop: raise/ cap for value,
you have more than 15outs 2 times.
turn:
little ugly because AQ makes a straight so with half of your outs the pot may be divided and a 9 may be no good anymore, but you are still drawing to 2nd nut flush
so raise turn for value against 2 callers.

cap river:
2nd nut flush, 2 callers, you need only to win 1 out of three to break even.

as shown: nice hand sir!

[bravos1]

capping the river is a bit of spew IMO. SB is alread AI and we won't be getting any more bets out of him. MP2 basically always has a flush here.. just look at his flop line. How often do you think he is 3betting a J-hi flush here?

The flop 3bet is also fine here as MP2 is coming along most of the time too.

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@bravos1

yes, I have to agree,
SB is already AI so the cap may be no good.