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I really don't get it, why would I trust I'm behind ?
Vilain had a lot of time air or a draw there, and when I'm Vs TP, I still had plenty of out. I'm not there to calldown in a so small pot...
It could even save me money when I get out of this on a turn c/r, and I also could check the river if no raised for a free showdown.
I really don't understand the calldown here, I will raise everytime a middle pair + gutshot Vs those freaking [censored] donk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Vilain had a lot of time air

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If villain has air you dont want to raise and give him a reason to fold. Its much better to let him bluff at the pot.


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or a draw there

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When villain has a draw its best for you to just call if he will fire the river UI. If you raise he will just c/f the river UI.


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and when I'm Vs TP, I still had plenty of out

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Thats true. But you still dont have +50% Eq so you loose money from the extra bets going in.


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I'm not there to calldown in a so small pot...


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When the pot is small you should focus on getting bets in the pot. Whenever you have a marginal hand and you suspect villain is bluffing or semi-bluffing you should not raise. You dont want him to fold those bluffs!


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It could even save me money when I get out of this on a turn c/r,

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That would be really terrible. Dont bloat the pot and then fold on a drawy board. Thats REALLY bad. Also folding the turn here should never ever be an option you consider


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and I also could check the river if no raised for a free showdown.


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That is true. And I think that is the only argument for raising the flop. But thats 1 argumnet vs 100 arguments for calling.


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I really don't understand the calldown here,

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Then, in all respect, you need to work on your game and how you think about it.

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If I can take the pot right now with this kind of hand I will be happy to raise it, it's not like Ive got the nuts.
Or at least I want him to pay for seeing a turn !

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Thats true. But you still dont have +50% Eq so you loose money from the extra bets going in.

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But his hand is not face up, I don't know he had air :

Vs TP weak kicker : I raise he call, I bet turn and check river, I won a bigbet.

You have to be aggressive to win, Its ok to calldown when the guys shown agrression, but he just donk T86 double heart flop, I want to protect my hand, I raise !

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I am done arguing. You can read my post again.

Raising this flop is not only a mistake, its a significant mistake.

Playing too aggressive in small pots is one of the most frequent leaks I notice other players have. In particular players who tries to play well but doesnt quite get it.

You say its fine if you win the pot right there. Thats the biggest mistake in your line of reasoning. If he folds a hand it was a hand you wanted him to stay in the pot with.


I dont care if you want to learn or not. But if you like money you should revisit your play in small HU pots.

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Why shouldnt I raise if I think Im ahead ? Why would I calldown if I think Im behind ? At least its a raise for information...Where is the trick in calling down a hand where you dont know anything ?
Moreover, I want to be the guy who is erratic, I dont want them to know I raise TP and calldown the rest,I dont want them to donk me every flop or check raising every turn, maybe I lost a bet here, but I will gain plenty of in the long term run.

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WTF he showed zero strenght, he's BB and called the button then donk this drawy board ! Really dont get it, hope more people will answer this post.

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Why shouldnt I raise if I think Im ahead ?

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This is what you dont get.

read the posts again and realize that being ahead is not in itself a reason to raise. If you cant see why you should work on how you think about the game. YOU DONT WANT HIM TO FOLD A BLUFF!

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At least its a raise for information...

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SIGH...

raising for info in LHE is overrated and useless. What are you going to do with that info when he c/r'es the turn? Fold?

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Also when someone has air or draw he can :

1) stop betting every street

2) hit something

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1) stop betting every street


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True. But not happening very often


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2) hit something

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If he hits it would be better for you to not raise. Not raising saves money when he sucks out.

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Not raising best hand save money to weak nits who donk every flops.