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Old 08-13-2007, 05:06 AM
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Default Re: 4bet QQ against possible squeeze ?

After you 4-bet half ur stack, it doesn't matter if you know he has AA or KK, you have odds to call and this is a horrible fold. But don't 4-bet this anyways, no regulars will squeeze light here, they 3-bet a bit light, but squeezing is omgscary to them.
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Old 08-13-2007, 06:41 AM
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Default Re: 4bet QQ against possible squeeze ?

I don't like 4betting QQ like ever unless you have a real solid read that he stacks of super light preflop
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Old 08-13-2007, 06:48 AM
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I don't like 4betting QQ like ever unless you have a real solid read that he stacks of super light preflop

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thx for the reply Dan Bitel. Should I just fold here ? Isn`t that very exploitable ? If I call what`s my line on a flop with no overpairs check/call ?
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Old 08-13-2007, 06:55 AM
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Default Re: 4bet QQ against possible squeeze ?

the cleaner,

I'd just call preflop. On most flops, I'd at least call 1 street. It all really depends what you think his 3betting range is, and how much of that he will stack off with on a flop. eg. if his range is TT+/AK and he will stack off with TT+ on a 9 high flop, then I just raise a 9 high flop all in etc etc.
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Old 08-13-2007, 08:12 AM
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Default Re: 4bet QQ against possible squeeze ?

ok, thanks a lot. I get it if we consider he stacks of with TT then we are 50/50% against TT+ on flop. If we consider that he is the type of player that only stacks of with JJ+ then we should fold.
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Old 08-13-2007, 08:21 AM
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Default Re: 4bet QQ against possible squeeze ?

the cleaner,

also remember he can be cbetting AK, so gotta figure that in ure calcs too
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Old 08-13-2007, 08:22 AM
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Default Re: 4bet QQ against possible squeeze ?

1 to 3 and your folding? WHAT?!
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Old 08-13-2007, 08:29 AM
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Default Re: 4bet QQ against possible squeeze ?

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1 to 3 and your folding? WHAT?!

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Yea, well my mistake was realy 4betting there and I realized he would only 5bet with KK-AA here IMO.
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Old 08-13-2007, 08:41 AM
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1 to 3 and your folding? WHAT?!

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Yea, well my mistake was realy 4betting there and I realized he would only 5bet with KK-AA here IMO.

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I dont think you made a mistake at all. You made a read and went with it. Sometimes reads go bad, so what. Even against a tight range your still not in too bad of a shape.
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Old 08-13-2007, 08:59 AM
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Default Re: 4bet QQ against possible squeeze ?

4betting here is really bad. U opened UTG and represented a strong hand. In my experience, ppl at low stakes only reraise light against a loose button opener when they are in the blinds... Call and hope that MP comes along. Check/Call a favorable flop and evaluate further action.
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