L5cd: str8 flush draws

[kurto]

Is there a serious question here? Thinly veiled brag post?

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I Like to play them agressively if i have position.


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Why? I'm just curious why this hand specifically demands to be played aggressively in position then... say trips or an OESD a pair of Aces? This hand has FUN factor but its still not a great hand. You're still an underdog to most starting hands.


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Especially how would you have played after the draw ?


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fold it as a reverse bluff then show your cards? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]


Not to say I never play draws aggressively. If it do its more likely at a table where people are folding a lot to predraw aggression. But I'm raising in those cases usually hoping to steal the dead money on the table. Not because I want to actually play the hand. I suspect if I make my hand I'm USUALLY not getting paid off enough to cover the implied odds... so I want to get in cheap and I want callers so that if I hit there are more people who might hit a second best hand that will pay me a PSB.

Am I totally off here?

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if they are limpin and calling raises, then we might want to value raise predraw if several limps.

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Right.

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no, you have to play them passive

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I strongly disagree with this. Limping draws turns your hand faceup. In a reasonably tight 6 handed game I think it's better to raise if you're going to play it.

[Big Limpin]

agree your hand is kind of transparent when you only call pre. but thats good as well as bad. You can limp, then bluff, and it looks authentic.

its game dependant...i'm used to alot of lose calls post, and that makes me pessimistic of my chances on raising predraw/contibetting. Its great for when i hit the hand, but usually its a spew, and i lose showdown to TT44 [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

maybe its jsut the game im in, but if the postdraw action will usually be there regardless, i'd prefer to get in cheap, and fold most misses (im still opportunistic, but i get those chances when i limp - it rep's better)

irregardless, can we agree that these SF hands are infrequent enough that it doesnt relly matter HOW you play them? Like you could fold every quads and it wouldnt make a lick of difference to your earnrate.

[Al Mirpuri]

What does your opponent have? Your post does not seem to say and the screenshot does not seem to show.

[Pat_Flush...Draw]

The guy had AA55x and hit a 5 for a Five full of Aces; that's why he has raised post draw. He would have probably just called if not improved...

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irregardless, can we agree that these SF hands are infrequent enough that it doesnt relly matter HOW you play them? Like you could fold every quads and it wouldnt make a lick of difference to your earnrate.

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You're right of course... I'm happy to not have my full houses outdrawn by a SF too often

[Al Mirpuri]

The way you played it a very good player could wriggle off the hook thinking it a high full house whereas if you play it passively like any flush draw you could break whoever because they would 'know' that you did not have high full house as you did not raise your 'two pair' and most likely have a made flush or straight and are overplaying it post flop. But this is really theoretical, and will make little difference to the bottom line.