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How does this factor in with UB? Are they one entity now or do they operate seperately?
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Some of you might not know this.. But Ub has been notorious for using bots. This does not surprise me one bit.
Teddy: How much more proof do you need FFS? How much more can they give you then HH'S. |
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Some of you might not know this.. But Ub has been notorious for using bots. This does not surprise me one bit. Teddy: How much more proof do you need FFS? How much more can they give you then HH'S. [/ QUOTE ] i posted that screenshot, moran. i'm drinking the coolaid now too. |
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I don't feel like going around to different threads trying to catch up with whatever the hell everyone is talking about.
Cliff-notes or slightly longer version please? How is it alleged that these players are somehow able to see others' hole-cards? Are they supposed to be 'see everything' type props who are profiting for the house or are they regular 'outside' players who somehow hacked into AP's servers? |
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Cliff-notes or slightly longer version please? [/ QUOTE ] Hand histories and stats strongly suggest the player(s) can see all the hole cards. I think one quote was something along the lines of it being played like a complete retard that could see what their opponent was holding. [ QUOTE ] How is it alleged that these players are somehow able to see others' hole-cards? Are they supposed to be 'see everything' type props who are profiting for the house or are they regular 'outside' players who somehow hacked into AP's servers? [/ QUOTE ] Undetermined. |
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I don't feel like going around to different threads trying to catch up with whatever the hell everyone is talking about. Cliff-notes or slightly longer version please? How is it alleged that these players are somehow able to see others' hole-cards? Are they supposed to be 'see everything' type props who are profiting for the house or are they regular 'outside' players who somehow hacked into AP's servers? [/ QUOTE ] Basic gist of hand histories are things like: Repeatedly calling big bluffs/semi-bluffs with hands like bad K-high's when it's the best hand. Making overbet value bets with really marginal hands against slightly worse hands. Playing really aggressive preflop generally, but just limp/calling when opponents have a big pair preflop. (i.e. playing 90/70 preflop and limp-calling with TT when opponent has KK. Open limping QTo on the button when the sb has AA) Playing ~90/70 for nl and ~65/55 for limit, having infinate river agression factor, and running at like 20bb/100 (limit) and 300bb/100 (nl) over several different 200-500 hand samples . Never showing down losers unless a bluff gets picked off, or he gets sucked out on with the money going in before the river. Always folding when opponents have strong hands. Dumping 100k+ heads-up to a random player in a big nl game a few days ago by repeatedly raising all but $1 in and folding to the all-in. |
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My opinion is that this is a huge breakdown in AP's controls in that these people somehow hacked their way into this information. It makes no logical sense to me that a poker site would jeopardize themselves this way intentionally. These threads are huge fodder for all the conspiracy theorists to say I told you so, but realistically I'm sure this is an isolated HUGE problem that has nothing to do with a site being "ZOMG RIGGED", but instead somebody finding a way to beat the system.
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My guess is that an unscrupulous employee in their software department left himself a backdoor or two. The hand histories are pretty damning.
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