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#11
10-11-2007, 01:16 PM
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Re: FT100 Weird bloated pot
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If SB has a busted draw, why bother pushing? He's not calling anything. Check behind on river. There's only $20 in the side pot, and you're WA/WB (likely a busted str8 draw). Why give him an opportunity to c/r bluff you out of both the main and side pot? [/ QUOTE ] Didn't see bb was all in. Well sb could have been blocking flop and turn with an eight too. We're just basically never beat here so push. 
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#12
10-11-2007, 01:18 PM
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Re: FT100 Weird bloated pot
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[ QUOTE ] I would push. Sb has a busted draw and bb has an eight. [/ QUOTE ] If SB has a busted draw, why bother pushing? He's not calling anything. Check behind on river. There's only $20 in the side pot, and you're WA/WB (likely a busted str8 draw). Why give him an opportunity to c/r bluff you out of both the main and side pot? [/ QUOTE ] people play bad and he is an unknown. he will call with low PP and 8x as well as TT, JJ. I think you have enough EV for this push. He cannot cr bluff you if you push....
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#13
10-11-2007, 01:24 PM
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Re: FT100 Weird bloated pot
raise or fold the flop, get it heads up versus the shorty.
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#14
10-11-2007, 01:39 PM
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Re: FT100 Weird bloated pot
SB line screams of a str8 draw to me with those silly $1 bets. Id have preferred a 3 bet on flop or bigger raise on turn. River decision depends on my reads, if i have none i guess i err on the side of caution and check. Too much to lose for too little chance of a call with less.
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#15
10-11-2007, 01:53 PM
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Re: FT100 Weird bloated pot
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I would push. Sb has a busted draw and bb has an eight. [/ QUOTE ] If SB has a busted draw, why bother pushing? He's not calling anything. Check behind on river. There's only $20 in the side pot, and you're WA/WB (likely a busted str8 draw). Why give him an opportunity to c/r bluff you out of both the main and side pot? [/ QUOTE ] people play bad and he is an unknown. he will call with low PP and 8x as well as TT, JJ. I think you have enough EV for this push. He cannot cr bluff you if you push.... [/ QUOTE ] The chances of some unknown at 100NL picking up on your weak river bet and making an insane river c/r with a busted straight draw here is close to 0. Why not bet between 15-25 and actually get called by hands we beat instead of pushing out 8x and low pp's with a shove?
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#16
10-11-2007, 03:00 PM
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Re: FT100 Weird bloated pot
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The chances of some unknown at 100NL picking up on your weak river bet and making an insane river c/r with a busted straight draw here is close to 0. Why not bet between 15-25 and actually get called by hands we beat instead of pushing out 8x and low pp's with a shove? [/ QUOTE ] The fact that villain twice made a min donk bet and called a raise probably means he isn't folding an eight if he has one.
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#17
10-11-2007, 03:15 PM
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Re: FT100 Weird bloated pot
We're HOPING he has an 8 here though, and I feel like that's the only hand he has that MIGHT call a shove but probably won't. We have no idea if this guy is a retarded slowplayer either. I've seen donks take similar lines w/ sets or like a 7 here - not the most likely situation but definitely not something you should rule out completely. A small v bet on the river actually gets value from 33-66 and will for sure get a call from an 8 whereas a push u really will probably fold him out.
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#18
10-11-2007, 09:11 PM
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Re: FT100 Weird bloated pot
Ok, I check behind an SB shows 64.
I guess I could bet half of what I have left here, but at the time it felt too thin. It's also particularly hard when you have no read. And after results I obviously have an extra read so it's hard to stay impartial.
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#19
10-11-2007, 11:06 PM
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Re: FT100 Weird bloated pot
whats the deal with turn raise sizing. Well By the river I'd say you have the best hand like 90% of the time and these players appear to suck so you might get called bet like 55.
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