Call a crazy push with AK late in a ps180?

[Poisoned]

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I agree but what is he stealing - 900 in blinds? I think AJ AQ he'd rather play a hand with the blinds. More likely 88-JJ IMO

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they dont play like you.

[Jeff76]

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I think AJ AQ he'd rather play a hand with the blinds. More likely 88-JJ IMO

[/ QUOTE ]Why? An overcard type hand is more likely I think because he'll want to make sure he gets to see all 5 if he's called.

But none of that matters, really. The range you've assigned is way to narrow. Heck, QJo is probably in his range.

Seriously, folding here is bad.

[gholizad]

This is instacall. Never fold AK in 180 seaters. If you really think about folding in this spot, you're playing scared money and probably beyond what your bankroll can afford.

[Sherman]

Actually, I think this is a PP here like 90+% of the time. Sometimes this is AK too. Very rarely is this Ax where x is less than K. But, I think it might be just often enough to make this a call.

FWIW, with a hand like 66,77,or 88 this becomes closer.

Call because I can't fold AK PF.

[nath]

call, and i don't know where this idea that a stack just above 20BB was big enough to pass up an edge of this size came from, but it needs to go away again

[TheFoxNL]

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I'd assume buttons range is very wide here. In fact, this is almost never AA/KK, so you are at worst a coin flip. I don't mind getting into a coin flip situation here because the blinds are coming up fast and winning will give you a FT stack and a shot at the real money of this tourny (In reality, though You are better than a coin flip, usually a 60% and sometimes even higher when he's pushing with an A or K).

Not to mention we are almost to the bubble and having a 20K+ stack will be awesome for abusing it. You could easily end up with a 35K+ stack for the FT if you pick good spots for stealing blinds.

Bottom line: we didn't start this thing to sneak into the money- we came to win and you are going to have to double up a few more times to do that. This is a great opportunity- you should take it.

That people fold AK here is what makes pushing marginal hands on the button profitable.

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[Jeff76]

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Very rarely is this Ax where x is less than K.

[/ QUOTE ]If villain is pushing with AK here, what do you think he is doing with AQ?

[registrar]

AQ is not a premium hand, according to the books, whereas AK is so I don't think people feel obliged to felt AQ. They do feel obliged to felt AK but they don't know what to do when they whiff so I kind of agree that AQ is somewhat rarely played thus and AK somewhat often.

[Sherman]

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Very rarely is this Ax where x is less than K.

[/ QUOTE ]If villain is pushing with AK here, what do you think he is doing with AQ?

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What registrar said. This is one of those situations where the guy has a hand he know he wants to play, but isn't sure how to play it. And he knows that pushing can't be that bad. I typically see mid-pairs doing this. Basically they are saying, "OMG, I don't want to see a flop!" Rarely is this Ax, but it is often enough something like AT. I don't know why, but I feel like villain's are more likely to push AT here than AQ. Probably again because, "OMG I don't want to see a flop!"

[Jeff76]

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AQ is not a premium hand, according to the books, whereas AK is so I don't think people feel obliged to felt AQ.

[/ QUOTE ]I agree with that statement, but I don't think villain is trying to felt a hand here.