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Old 02-16-2007, 01:53 AM
shpanko shpanko is offline
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

eh villain would be on a spade draw or even have a wheel draw now. however if he has KJ/QJ/TJ then we want to check behind to get a vbet in on the river. THis also prevents us from being c/r'ed. So yeah perhaps a turn check would be good if we are hesitant to fold to a turn c/r.
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Old 02-16-2007, 04:54 AM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

For some reason I like to check behind turn here.

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flop bet bigger? what does 23 accomplish that 17 doesnt?

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For an observant villain 17 looks like you missed and 23 looks like you hit and want to protect your hand against a FD.

If I bet here, I'm betting at least 22.
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Old 02-16-2007, 05:14 AM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

I would bet a little more on flop, but thats just preference, not too important i dont think. On turn, i would continue to bet to charge draws, but really easy fold unless this guy is crazy and stacks off with trash. I like turn bet size.
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Old 02-16-2007, 05:43 AM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

Looks fine. I'm sure you would 2nd barrel alot here so you have to bet sometimes when you actually hit it to.

Paul
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Old 02-16-2007, 08:37 AM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

Yes villain might have AJ, but some will also min raise here to try and scare you with the A (assuming you havent hit really).

I really like checking behind on the turn and calling a river bet (often bluff), but two spades two clubs, err

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Old 02-16-2007, 08:50 AM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

im firing a 2nd barrell here w/ pretty much anything i raise with so no reason not to do it when you actually hit this turn. villains line is super strong so i like the fold since you havent given him a reason to think he can push you off
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Old 02-16-2007, 09:52 AM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

On an aside,

If villains stats are tighter ie. 18/16 as oppose to 35/22 should we bet this turn more frequently or less (meaning check behind)?
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:07 AM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

Orange,

Looks fine. Sucks that there are eleventy billion draws on the board, but your hand isn't going to improve on the river.
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Old 02-16-2007, 04:12 PM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

I have a harder time folding these hands. I don't think you can automatically put him on AJ, 55 or 22. Ax[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] has to be a decent portion of his range. I may convince myself to call vs a loose player.... leak?
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Old 02-16-2007, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

yea pretty std. Well played

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