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Old 08-17-2007, 01:37 PM
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<font color="blue"> In another thread I agree that it might be plausible that God will punish atheists because he thinks their atheism is merely an excuse to defy him. In other words no atheist legitimitely disbelieves. </font>

Why? Why would you agree with this? It's clearly untrue.

I think you concede far too many points to make another point. Even if that point might be stronger, it's not a good debating tactic. If you're going to give up that many points to make another one, it should be a lock. Unfortunately, there's no such thing as a lock counter-point to a religious person.
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Old 08-17-2007, 02:00 PM
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"that the finite, sinful creature has the right and ability to judge the morally perfect, righteous Creator."

The basis of authoritarianism. Don't use your brain to think oryour heart to judge; I alone know what is right and best of good for you; just do and accept. If not, go to hell.
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Old 08-17-2007, 02:25 PM
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The basis of authoritarianism. Don't use your brain to think oryour heart to judge


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Something has to be the final judge, the ultimate authority. Whatever you pick, that's your authority.
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Old 08-17-2007, 02:47 PM
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Some would go for the silliest statement that the finite, sinful creature has the right and ability to judge the morally perfect, righteous Creator.

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are you not judging him??
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Old 08-17-2007, 02:55 PM
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But shouldn't God allow people to use their God-given intelligence to decide? Does he really want them to blindly accept? Should they blindly accept political or any other worldly authority? Is God really a Leninist?
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Old 08-17-2007, 03:43 PM
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are you not judging him??


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Yes, by His standard, not my own knowledge or ability.
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Old 08-17-2007, 03:45 PM
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But shouldn't God allow people to use their God-given intelligence to decide? Does he really want them to blindly accept? Should they blindly accept political or any other worldly authority? Is God really a Leninist?


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He does allow you. And we don't blindly accept.
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:00 PM
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are you not judging him??


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Yes, by His standard, not my own knowledge or ability .

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Hmm.
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:37 PM
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On what someone says his standard is. You have no way of knowing his standard.
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:38 PM
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are you not judging him??


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Yes, by His standard, not my own knowledge or ability.

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ok, that's impossible.

...unless you're doing the usual thing where you make up your own definitions of words in order to completely derail the discussion and make it impossible to argue with you.
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